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edwest 3rd December 2005 04:45

Photos 12-2-05
 
Fw 190
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232299162
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232298170

Me 109
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6231169821
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6584045780
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6585195038

Misc.
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232272850
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232272747
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232311527
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232296961
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6231171459
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232241066
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232188406
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232329557
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232536873
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232528802

Color
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232606071
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232606042
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232606008
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232605952
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232605825
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232644214
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232643912

Photo album
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6230935372

Photo album (has one photo showing tail with code D 4 M)
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPi.dll?...tem=6232318802

Combat report
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6584931014



Usual disclaimer,
Ed

DaveM2 3rd December 2005 05:29

Re: Photos 12-2-05
 
Interesting markings on this 109

http://cgi.ebay.com/WWII-ORIGINAL-PH...QQcmdZViewItem

Dave

SES 3rd December 2005 12:19

Re: Photos 12-2-05
 
That is an understatement and it looks fake to me.
bregds
SES

Andreas Brekken 3rd December 2005 15:15

Re: Photos 12-2-05
 
Afaik this is a photo of Hans von Hahn, GrKdr I./JG 3.

Regards,
Andreas

Michal 3rd December 2005 19:09

Re: Photos 12-2-05
 
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6232329557

seems to be Hs 129B-2 WNr. 0246 5./SchG 1 which made emergency landing near Bolkhov after attack of fighter on Aug 25 1942. 60 % damage.

wrackplatz 4th December 2005 13:26

Re: Photos 12-2-05
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SES
That is an understatement and it looks fake to me.

Hello SES,

that's right, this seller offers new reproduced photos as originals.
Most of these kind of photos are offered as original from old archives
in Russia. THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT TRUE! All these are modern repros
made in Eastern Europe or Germany on semi old paper, "decorated" with
a stamp an some unreadable scribble on reverse side. That's why the
sellers offer them for 10 EUR or 10 USD.

DaveM2 4th December 2005 13:39

Re: Photos 12-2-05
 
I think he meant the markings are fake?

Dave

SES 4th December 2005 13:45

Re: Photos 12-2-05
 
Hi,
You are both right. The markings are obviously fake. There was no such combination of cheverons and they scream "touch-up"/"add-on". So the whole thing is a fake.
bregds
SES

Don Pearson 4th December 2005 15:27

Re: Photos 12-2-05
 
The chevron combination is correct, the same photo (and others) are in Prien's "purple" series vol 6/I pg 76. The same chevrons were used earlier by Lützow.

Don

wrackplatz 4th December 2005 16:44

Re: Photos 12-2-05
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Pearson
The chevron combination is correct, the same photo (and others) are in Prien's "purple" series vol 6/I pg 76. The same chevrons were used earlier by Lützow.

Hello Don,

that's absolutely right. You also find another photo at Rosch's "Luftwaffe
codes, markings...". The fake is that the photo is not original. My suspicion
is that the seller copied the photo out of Prien's book or somewhere else
to make some money at ebay. That's the story behind the socalled
"Russia archieve photos". In my opinion it's very sad.


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