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Rulaman 22nd June 2013 07:26

Ju87 B with flame damper - NSGr or different use
 
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I came accross this image showing an abandoned Ju 87 B with flame damper exhausts fitted and was wondering if anybody could shed some light on possible unit allocation, location and likey date of the image. I plan to build a such equipped Ju 87 B using the 1/48th scale Hasegawa kit plus some resin exhaust. Yet, I'm not sure what details to add. As it seems to be late in war I would change the rear gunner position to the version with the kidney shaped armored glass (as used on the Ju 88) and use a MG 81 I instead of the MG 15. But the real question is if it was used as night attacker or for towing purposes at night. In the latter case I would also add glider towing equipment.

Any ideas/information. Thanks in advance!!

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Rulaman

CJE 23rd June 2013 10:08

Re: Ju87 B with flame damper - NSGr or different use
 
My two cents.
It is probably a Ju 87 R flown by 2./NSGr. 10, which had a dozen machines at Wels at the end of the war.

ChristianK 23rd June 2013 11:44

Re: Ju87 B with flame damper - NSGr or different use
 
Hi Rulaman,

that's Ju 87 C-0, V10, 4928, TK+HD, found at Brunnthal, near Munich in 1945. This example was used for aircraft carrier landing tests earlier in the war and obviously received flame dampers at some point later on.

I've attached two additional photos of it. Sources are old ebay auctions (via David E. Brown I believe. Cannot access this info anymore, so please forgive me if this is wrong).

Your picture was unknown to me before - would you mind revealing its source and do you have more from this location?

Cheers,
Christian

Rulaman 23rd June 2013 12:20

Re: Ju87 B with flame damper - NSGr or different use
 
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Originally Posted by CJE (Post 168455)
My two cents.
It is probably a Ju 87 R flown by 2./NSGr. 10, which had a dozen machines at Wels at the end of the war.

Thanks for that hint. It might be plausible to build a B or R version with flame dampers after looking at this page following your advice regarding the NSGr. 10.

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/schlacht/bnsgr10.html

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Rulaman

Rulaman 23rd June 2013 12:32

Re: Ju87 B with flame damper - NSGr or different use
 
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Originally Posted by ChristianK (Post 168464)
Hi Rulaman,

that's Ju 87 C-0, V10, 4928, TK+HD, found at Brunnthal, near Munich in 1945. This example was used for aircraft carrier landing tests earlier in the war and obviously received flame dampers at some point later on.

I've attached two additional photos of it. Sources are old ebay auctions (via David E. Brown I believe. Cannot access this info anymore, so please forgive me if this is wrong).

Your picture was unknown to me before - would you mind revealing its source and do you have more from this location?

Cheers,
Christian

Interesting. Still looking at the pics to be sure, that it's the same plane. Sadly one can't see the spinner on your pictures. Location? - see my initial posting:-)

Source: Internet, say GOOGLE entering Ju87 plus some time to surf all pics shown.

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Rulaman

ChristianK 23rd June 2013 13:02

Re: Ju87 B with flame damper - NSGr or different use
 
Hi Rulaman,
the photos I posted are not the only ones of that plane, but they are free of any copyright! ;) Others make the identification quite easy;so trust me, it's the same plane.

Rulaman 30th June 2013 10:40

Re: Ju87 B with flame damper - NSGr or different use
 
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Originally Posted by ChristianK (Post 168473)
Hi Rulaman,
the photos I posted are not the only ones of that plane, but they are free of any copyright! ;) Others make the identification quite easy;so trust me, it's the same plane.

Good thing is, if it is V-10 then it was the fixed wing prototype with non-clipped wings, or not? So I don't have to change the wing tips on my model.

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Rulaman

Modeldad 1st July 2013 14:11

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Would not the C-0 V10 be a B-1 equivalent? Seems it was fitted with a new wide prop also.

That would mean the radiator and under-nose would be different from all existing Ju 87 B kits.

Rulaman 1st July 2013 19:48

Re: Ju87 B with flame damper - NSGr or different use
 
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Originally Posted by Modeldad (Post 168950)
Would not the C-0 V10 be a B-1 equivalent? Seems it was fitted with a new wide prop also.

That would mean the radiator and under-nose would be different from all existing Ju 87 B kits.

Having just looked more closely on one of the avilable close up pics, I have to say, that you're correct. It's a B-1 version. The details on the nose section show it. Thanks for the heads-up.

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Rulaman


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