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drmike 26th June 2013 03:16

von Grafenreuth
 
Hello, I'm brand new to this forum and need some help or advice. I'm a uniform collector, with one of my Luftwaffe overcoats having the name
"Lieutenant von Grafenreuth" in it. (not von Gravenreuth) and is dated 1936. It seems he was killed (shot down) in 1940 over Gatwick, England.
I was trying to find out more information on him...maybe even a picture.??
Any recommendations on where/how to proceed?
Thanks very much, Mike
PS. The coat has colonel boards on it and not lieutenant, so maybe they were replaced.
https://mail-attachment.googleuserco...f4f207bff31c3c

John Vasco 26th June 2013 11:32

Re: von Grafenreuth
 
If it is the the pilot who was shot down in September 1940, here's his grave at Cannock Chase:

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7672/0ez3.th.jpg

drmike 26th June 2013 17:29

Re: von Grafenreuth
 
WOW...thanks so much..is there any way for you to email me that pic to
drmike58@gmail.com ?? I can't get it larger in order to read it. Yes, I think it was the same man. His coat has the right name, but the boards and colar tabs seem to be higher rank. ..??
I really appreciate your help. I like to put a "story' with my uniforms, it means more.
Mike

Brian Bines 26th June 2013 17:40

Re: von Grafenreuth
 
Hi Mike,

1/ I have Ulrich Fhr.von Gravenreuth b. 4-9-04, KIA over England 27-9-1940 with rank Oblt.
2/ Siegmund-Ulrich Fhr. von Gravenreuth b 4-9-04 promoted to Ltn 1-4-36 flew as a bomber pilot a Kom.of KG30 killed on a fighter conversion course 16-10-44 with rank Oberstltn.
The Refs. I have for both men (brothers?) spell their names with a 'v' not an 'f'. It would seem Siegmund would be a better possibility for owning the coat or it could have been passed to him on the death of Ulrich if related, unless of course the Grafenreuth is correct and its a different person altogether,

Regards

Brian Bines

lilsis 26th June 2013 19:37

Re: von Grafenreuth
 
Hi,

To 2. : http://aufhimmelzuhause.com/id137.htm
To 1. : Name is Ulrich Maximilian
Regards

John Vasco 27th June 2013 21:04

Re: von Grafenreuth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drmike (Post 168673)
WOW...thanks so much..is there any way for you to email me that pic to
drmike58@gmail.com ?? I can't get it larger in order to read it. Yes, I think it was the same man. His coat has the right name, but the boards and colar tabs seem to be higher rank. ..??
I really appreciate your help. I like to put a "story' with my uniforms, it means more.
Mike

Mike,
If you click on it, it will take you through to the small size on Imageshack. Top right-hand corner of the photo there is a feature to 'zoom' the photo. Click on that to take it up to full size.

I'll also get it off to you by e-mail.

MarkRS 30th June 2013 10:45

Re: von Grafenreuth
 
Oberleutnant Sigmund Freiherr von Gravenreuth, Staffelkapitan of 1/KG30 was involved in the 3/KG30 attack on the HMT Lancastria 17/06/1940.

Mark


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