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gilles collaveri 28th July 2013 17:38

looking for GQM1107
 
Good evening,

I am looking for the GQM1107 corresponding to the crash of a Dewoitine 520 (N 693) that occured on 4 November 1943 near Tarbes in the south west of France;
Tomasch Rudolf was on board (killed), after disorientation due to fog and crashed/burnt on ground.

The reason is that I will be writing a report on this crash after finding parts of this very aircraft.

Thanks to all.

GC




Andreas Brekken 28th July 2013 21:50

Re: looking for GQM1107
 
Hello, Gilles.

This is how the accident is registered in the GenQu listings:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=166797

He was apparantly flying with Uffz. August Malle at the time:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=166798

Regards,
Andreas B

gilles collaveri 29th July 2013 08:04

Re: looking for GQM1107
 
Thanks you very much Andreas,

you are right, they crashed the same day due to fog and I found both crash sites;

If anybody has an idea on how find relatives/family of Rudi Thomash or August Malle ? I would be delighted..

Andreas: a couple of discrepancies to be noted.
- the report you mailed me (first one, crash in Lannemezan) states D520 Wnr 1107 whereas Matti has Wnr 693. I Believe 693 is the good one because the D520 was built up to WNr 905.
- and your sp
elling of the name of the pilot is "Thomasch" whereas Matti has "Tomasch". How could we check ?

have a nice day,

Gilles Collaveri


Charles Bavarois 29th July 2013 12:47

Re: looking for GQM1107
 
Hello Gilles,

from NVM:

Uffz August Malles, Jagdschüler, D 520, WNr. 505, lost orientation in fog and hit hill.

Uffz Rudolf Tomasch, Hilfsjagdlehrer, D 520, WNr. 693, lost orientation in fog and hit hill. The reported next relative was his mother Maria Tomasch, so "Tomasch" without "Th" seems to be okay.

HTH

Carl

gilles collaveri 29th July 2013 13:36

Re: looking for GQM1107
 
Thanks Carl,

is there on the NVM any information about Tomasch's mother's city or village that could help me trace the family ?

Thanks

Gilles

Chris Goss 29th July 2013 15:24

Re: looking for GQM1107
 
Malle (not Malles) was born Feldkirchen 28 Nov 22 and was killed at Ste Arromand (?)
Tomasch (not Thomasch) was born 2 Sep 20 at Oberlangenau and was killed at Lannemezan

Andreas Brekken 29th July 2013 19:24

Re: looking for GQM1107
 
Hi, all

Spelling of names more likely to be correct in NVM. I was just referring the content of the GenQu report.

With regards to aircraft WNr etc we have seen errors going 'both' ways - NVM erronous, GenQu correct and vice versa as verified by allied wreck investigation reports and also contemporary German photographs.

I will update my database with info from the NVM.

Regards,
Andreas

gilles collaveri 29th July 2013 19:34

Re: looking for GQM1107
 
Thanks Andreas and Chris,

all best

Gilles


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