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Dmitry Volodin 3rd September 2013 21:28

Need help clearing the fate of Lw fighter pilots
 
Hi,

Could anyone clear the fate of some pilots:
Ofw. Guhl Hermann, I.(J)/LG2, last claim 12.05.40
Oblt. Deuschle Heinz, II./JG77, shoot down 06.04.41
Oblt. Grobe Rudolf, II./JG77, shoot down 22.05.41
Uffz. Brunsmann Heinrich, II./JG77, accident 22.04.41
Uffz. Borchert Fritz, III./JG77, wounded 20.04.41
Uffz. Pfeifer, III./JG77, accident 21.04.41
Ltn. Mann Harald, III./JG77, shoot down 16.05.41
Ltn. von Brentano, III./JG77, accident 30.05.41

BR
Dmitry

Jim P. 4th September 2013 00:38

Re: Need help clearing the fate of Lw fighter pilots
 
Bf 109E-7, 3428, Deuschle, Oblt. Heinz, , II., 6., JG 77, , , , , 06-Apr-41, Reported lost due to groundfire. Notlandung. F returned 9-Apr., WNr. 4328 per Prien., Lfl.4/Jugoslawien, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.276; Prien, JG 77, I, p.494, , bei Pancevo, 100%, F, , ,
Bf 109G-6, 163435, Deuschle, Hptm. Heinz, , I., Stab I., JG 5, schwarzes, 7 +, , , 27-May-44, KIA due to Luftkampf., , FR, Mombeek, Eismeerjäger, V.IV, p.243; Manrho, , St. Dié, 100%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 5799, Grobe, Oblt. Rudolf, , II., 5., JG 77, schwarzes, 5 + -, , , 22-May-41, POW due to Flak. Apparently returned., WNr. 3799 per Prien-corrected in V.III., Lfl.4/Mittelmeer, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.276; Prien, JG 77, I, p.593, , Raum Kythera, 100%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 3183, Grobe, Oblt. Rudolf, , II., 5., JG 5, rote, 5 +, , , 22-Mar-42, KIA due to Flak. Crashed during Notlandung?, WNr. 5183 per Prien, et al., Lfl.5/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #5)-Vol.8; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IX.3, p.432; Valtonen, LW Pohjoinen Sivusta, p.365, , 6km östlich Titowka-Bucht, 100%, F, , ,
Heinrich Brunsmann went to San.Flugber. 17 (?) per his FB which ends on 14-Jul-42
(Assuming same Borchert)
Bf 109E-7, 3282, Borchert, Uffz. Fritz, , III., 8., JG 77, schwarzes, 10 + ^^, , , 20-Apr-41, WIA due to Flak. Notlandung., , Lfl.4/Griechenland, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.293, p.285 photos; Prien, JG 77, I, p.530, p.528 photos, , Raum Larissa/Piraeus, 100%, F, , ,
Bf 109F-4, 7260, Borchert, Fw. Fritz, , II., 5., JG 52, schwarzes, 12 +, , , 22-May-42, Reported lost due to Luftkampf. Returned., , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.9; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IX.2, p.502; Fast, JG 52, IV, p.64, , Ort unbekannt, 100%, F, , ,
Bf 109G-2, 13617, Borchert, Fw. Fritz, , I., 2., JG 52, schwarzes, 8 +, , , 28-May-43, KIA due to Luftkampf with Spitfire. FSA., , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #10)-Vol.18; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, XII.2, p.295; Fast, JG 52, IV, p.94, , südlich Krymskaja (PlQu. 34 Ost / 75 264), 100%, F, , ,

Johannes 4th September 2013 10:55

Re: Need help clearing the fate of Lw fighter pilots
 
Hi Dmitry

Hermann Gühl got around. He was born on 6th January 1912, seems very likely that he survived the war. A former test pilot he was the Staffelkapitän of 11./Jg26 from 19th December 1944 until 20th March 1945 when it dis-banded. The micro films in the earlier typed-out Staffel form exists for 1./Lg2, but there is nothing on it for him, he either had a few u/c claims or his earlier ones may very well be speculation, there are gaps in his career where I cannot account for him, but these are his claims:-

4th September 1939 1./LG 2 Ofw Pzl-24 Poczalkowo u/c
2nd June 1942 1./JG 77 Ofw U-2 u/c?
11th June 1942 1./JG 77 Ofw LaGG-3 u/c?
13th June 1942 1./JG 77 Ofw DB-3 Taman area u/c?
30th November 1943 11./JG 26 Stfw B-17 1155 hrs 8000 metres A.S.M
13th April 1944 11./JG 26 Stfw P-47 1320 hrs 4000-3500 metres v.n.e-a.s.m
1st May 1945 2./JG 26 Lt Spitfire north of Schwarzenbek 1050 hrs u/c.

Being optimistic I guess he could still be alive.

Hope this helps

Kind Regards

Johannes

P.S Am not at all sure about his 1./Jg77 claims!

Dmitry Volodin 8th September 2013 20:40

Re: Need help clearing the fate of Lw fighter pilots
 
Thank you very much friends. I am compiling lists for all Gruppen on eastern front on 22.06.41.


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