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Joerg Dietsche 27th December 2005 21:17

366th and 36th FG Airbattle 21 Nov 1944
 
Who is the pilot in the P-47 lost by 36th FG (MACR 10580) on that day? Was he engaged in the same air fight as the 366th FG?

Beside the losses mentioned below the 48th FG lost two P-47 (MACR 10581&10582) south of Euskirchen.

Sixteen aircraft were sent to escort B-26 bombers striking rail bridges in the Cologne area , but the bombers did not show up.
The escort were then vectored by MARMITE to the Düsseldorf area to investigate bogeys coming in from the east. They climbed to 18.000 feet and identified 60 Me-109 below them at 13.000 feet. They attacked out of the sun in a perfect set up and in a ten minute dogfight claimed ten enemy aircraft shot down.
Capt Struth was shot down in the dogfight and was killed.

Source. “Angels ZERO”
P-47 Close Air Support in Europe
Robert V. Brulle



Alex Smart 28th December 2005 01:14

Re: 366th and 36th FG Airbattle 21 Nov 1944
 
P47 serial number 42-27340 from the 36 th Fighter Group, 23rd Fighter Squadron coded "7U - ".
As you say MACR 10580.
Should give pilots name/rank.
My gues is that it was 2Lt. Herbert A. Williamson O-766817 who died on the 25th November 1944,perhaps surcoming to wounds.
Alex

Short Stuff 28th December 2005 14:23

Re: 366th and 36th FG Airbattle 21 Nov 1944
 
No confirmation but I think that it was 2Lt. Donald E. GOOD 0-716107 (POW - Stalag Luft 1)
Lt. Williamson's P-47 (42-28405) crashed in Belgium on the 25th November 1944 during a training flight.

Alex Smart 29th December 2005 16:54

Re: 366th and 36th FG Airbattle 21 Nov 1944
 
Thanks Didier, for the confirmation re Lt.Williamson.
I was not sure.
Alex

Flupke 30th December 2005 21:53

Re: 366th and 36th FG Airbattle 21 Nov 1944
 
Hello Joerg

The two pilots from the 48th FG were the F/O Engel Donald R. (KIA)T-63047 #42-8445 F4-V MACR 10581 and the 1st Lt Stokes Raylon L. (KIA)O-671611 #43-25309 F4-C MACR 10582 shot down at 12:30 S of Euskirchen WF3525 (inside friendly lines)
I confirm for the 2nd Lt Good Donald (POW)O-716107 (I think the nickname of the A/C was “ZIP” Gereonsweiler ? Heinsberg / Lümbach ??(D)VK9564 16:03’ Flak
Another P-47 is said crashed near Eupen that day , pilot killed but I don’t know who he was .
And also a 366th FG 389th FS #42-76200 Capt Struth Henry J.(KIA) O-429990 MACR 10569 Said crashed around Erkrath-Hochdahl?? Shot down by Me-109

Happy New Year
Phil


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