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bill norman 28th December 2005 12:52

Luftwaffe target codes
 
Does anyone know where I can get a list of the Luftwaffe's code numbers for individual targets (ie specific towns and/or specific industrial installations) in the UK. I am especially interested in North East England? I already have a list of the Luftwaffe's codes for generic targets (ie classes of target). Any help appreciated.

Chris Goss 28th December 2005 13:34

Re: Luftwaffe target codes
 
Presume you have seen the codename list in Balke's KG 2 history Vol 1?

bill norman 28th December 2005 14:02

Re: Luftwaffe target codes
 
Chris. Yes, I have Balke's list. I am now seeking a list of code numbers for specific targets. I have the numbers (stated on Luftwaffe documents in my possession) but without such a list, I can't interpret them - and best wishes for 2006. B

SES 29th December 2005 12:05

Re: Luftwaffe target codes
 
Hi bill,
This might help.
bregds
SES

bill norman 29th December 2005 15:48

Re: Luftwaffe target codes
 
Thanks SES, but I already had the list. I believe that the Luftwaffe assigned specific numbers to towns in UK and numbers also to particular targets within those towns. That is the list I am trying to find. Best wishes for 2006. BN

Chris Going 31st December 2005 13:54

Re: Luftwaffe target codes
 
Bill -I ought to get a reply in to this now, otherwise I never shall manage it what with the log chopping and general Christmas mayhem.

This is an interesting question on a minority topic. Some 1,300 5th Abt UK Targets are known, and for ease of reference, you can see them listed in the Black Dick Tracy Index volumes in NARA (3rd Floor, Cartographic -ask Jerry Luchansky or Ramon or whoever is there -Vol 1).

As you are aware, the Target Class is a two-digit code (eg 10 for airfields, 16 for misc defences, etc), and then there is a unique target number. Some target classes are far commoner than others (eg 10 is commoner than 25 -balloon storage depots, if memory serves). Now. if we look at the 10 targets, we have (eg) 10/1 Abbotsinch; 10/2 Aberdeen/Dyce; 10/4 Abridge (in Essex); 10/5 Acklington; 10/6 Aldergrove, 10/8 Anstey (airstrip in Herts?), 10/12 Bedford, 10/15 Benson; 10/17 Biggin Hill. Thus, it seems that airfields have been allocated on a strictly alphabetical basis. This is so most of the time. There are some number blocks in there: eg Orkneys and Shetlands begin with 9XX, Scotland with 8xx (usually). Eire is 5XX (again most of the time). Obviously there are are airfields begun during the war itself, for example 9th AF and 8th AF bases. These seem to have received numbers in the 400's, which suggests the 5 Abt stopped their initial recording after c 300 airfields, tho' they carried on adding.

Towns etc. The highest Target Class was 99, which was a catch-all: 'Minor towns' I think. There are really only about 40-50 Target Classes with large numbers of targets each. There is some clustering of digits which suggests they started with London/Lower Thames, but otherwise patterning is not by town, and not geographic.

If you want more contact me off board.

best wishes

Chris Going

bill norman 31st December 2005 18:04

Re: Luftwaffe target codes
 
Chris. Glad you took the break from log chopping! I'll get in touch with NARA - their list could be just what I'm looking for. Thanks for that. Excellent.

Chris Going 14th January 2006 17:06

Re: Luftwaffe target codes
 
Dear Bill

I have come across a list of targets for Middlesborough. Will post them later this weekend.

Chris Going

Chris Going 14th January 2006 17:21

Re: Luftwaffe target codes
 
Later this weekend came faster than I expected...

The known Middlesborough targets comprise:

Cat 45/10 Harbour installations
Cat 50/39 Power station
Cat 52/10: Waterworks
Cat 61/1: Tar distillation works
Cat 61/3; Chemical works
Cat 61/10; Chemical works
Cat 70/1: Rolling mills
Cat 70/3: Blast furnaces and rolling mills
Cat 70/6; Blast furnaces and steelworks
Cat 70/36: Ironworks and steelworks
Cat 70/37: Steelworks
Cat 70/38; Blast furnaces
Cat 70/39; Blast furnaces
Cat 83/8; Shipyards
Cat 83/18; Shipyard

This is not likely to be definitive, but not a bad representative list.

I may have a xerox of one or two of these somewhere about the house...

Chris Going

Chris Going 14th January 2006 17:21

Re: Luftwaffe target codes
 
Later this weekend came faster than I expected...

The known Middlesborough targets comprise:

Cat 45/10 Harbour installations
Cat 50/39 Power station
Cat 52/10: Waterworks
Cat 61/1: Tar distillation works
Cat 61/3; Chemical works
Cat 61/10; Chemical works
Cat 70/1: Rolling mills
Cat 70/3: Blast furnaces and rolling mills
Cat 70/6; Blast furnaces and steelworks
Cat 70/36: Ironworks and steelworks
Cat 70/37: Steelworks
Cat 70/38; Blast furnaces
Cat 70/39; Blast furnaces
Cat 83/8; Shipyards
Cat 83/18; Shipyard

This is not likely to be definitive, but not a bad representative list.

I may have a xerox of one or two of these somewhere about the house...

Chris Going


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