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steven1 16th November 2013 16:34

Oblt Werner Heinieke 10/.JG5
 
Hello can anyone tell me if this Pilot was Killed or missing,

I am sure he had one air victory but not sure if he had more.

many thanks Steven

REDCAP50 16th November 2013 17:45

Re: Oblt Werner Heinieke 10/.JG5
 
Hello Steven
I found this: http://www.luftwaffe.no/7JG5.html

Oblt Werner Heinicke BF109 G6 WKNR 414463 White 5
redcap50

steven1 16th November 2013 19:15

Re: Oblt Werner Heinieke 10/.JG5
 
Many thanks Redcap for your help I appreciate it,

If anyone else know anything about this pilot or JG5 I would be grateful

Kaczmarek 16th November 2013 19:57

Re: Oblt Werner Heinieke 10/.JG5
 
Hi Steven,

21.7.44
Ltn. Werner Heinicke 8./J.G. 5
belly landed after combat with russian fighters near Kirkenes a/f, unhurt
Bf 109 G-6 Black 12

17.10.44
Ltn. Werner Heinicke 10./J.G. 5
hits in the cockpit, Kirkenes, unhurt
Bf 109 G-6 Black 12

Rgds,
René

PS: The parcel is well packed and fly to you on Monday.

Johannes 17th November 2013 07:23

Re: Oblt Werner Heinieke 10/.JG5
 
Hi Guys

He was the Staffelkapitän of 7./JG 5 from February 1945 until the wars end, thus surviving the war. Czech born on 17th October 1916 he earlier flew with 4.erg/JGr.Ost in 1944. As to his claims, he had four until end September 1944, after this time JG 5's daily claims were not recorded on the micro films, but they made many claims over Russian aircraft in October 1944, thereafter a few claims over British and American aircraft, his known claims are(all with 10./JG 5):-

15th September 1944 P-39 0723 hrs 500 metres Nr.1
26th September 1944 Jak-9 1442 hrs 1200 metres Nr.2
27th September 1944 Boston area of Kiberg 1139 hrs 2500 metres Nr.3
27th September 1944 P-39 1143 hrs 1200 metres Nr.4

Likely to have claimed more in October 1944.

Regards

Johannes

steven1 17th November 2013 13:32

Re: Oblt Werner Heinieke 10/.JG5
 
Thanks to all who have been very helpful in providing me with the information
on this pilot.

regards steven

Nick Hector 17th November 2013 23:04

Re: Oblt Werner Heinieke 10/.JG5
 
His known opponents:

26.9.44: Raid on Vadso. 2 Yak-7s and 1 P-40N lost (serious overclaiming by JG 5...)

27.9.44: There were 3 P-39s lost in action that date, versus at least 7 claims by JG 5
The Boston would have come from 36 MTAP. Walter Schuck is credited with an A-20G of 36 MTAP flown by Captain Protas baled out safely. Lt.Jermak. Lt.Bystrov and Sgt.Karlamov all KIA

Recommend this site to you:
http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/falkgarden.html

be sure to go back to the homepage and check out the other wrecks documented....

HTH
Nick

RolandF 18th November 2013 09:40

Re: Oblt Werner Heinieke 10/.JG5
 
Are you certain about the WNr of Heinicke´s Bf 109G-6?
414463 lies beyond the known WNrn range and a G-6 of JG 5 is listed on 17th, June 1944 as WNr 411463 with Ofhr Hans Vollet at the controls?

Regards

Roland

Tom Semenza 19th November 2013 00:21

Re: Oblt Werner Heinieke 10/.JG5
 
According to Prien, et al. in Jagdfliegerverbände der Luftwaffe, Teil 10/III Heinicke was credited, as his first, with a Beaufighter shot down on 1.05.43 at 21:40 while with 3./JG 5. However Mombeek in Eismeerjäger, Band 2 shows Lt. Karl-Heinz Steinicke as having made this claim.

Tom

steven1 19th November 2013 10:44

Re: Oblt Werner Heinieke 10/.JG5
 
I would like to thank you all for the information provided, I managed to get his pilots license just goes to show what history can be researched.

Steven


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