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Bart V. 21st November 2013 00:11

Johann(es) Kiefer
 
Does anyone have more information of Uffz Johann(es) Kiefer? I found his name once on the Forum here (WIA FW190G-3).

Many thanks in advance

Jim P. 21st November 2013 02:26

Re: Johann(es) Kiefer
 
Did you already have this?

FW 190G-3, 160818, Kiefer, Uffz. Johannes, , II., , SG 4, , , , , 06-Apr-44, Injured in crash., , Italien, Landers via LEMB, , Perugia, 100%, F, , ,

Andrew Arthy 21st November 2013 11:11

Re: Johann(es) Kiefer
 
Hi Bart,

According to information from Matti Salonen, Johann Kiefer was posted missing on 15 August 1944 east of Bauske, and was not seen again.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com

Bart V. 21st November 2013 13:44

Re: Johann(es) Kiefer
 
Johann Kiefer survived the war. Jim P. thanks for information, had most of it. Anything more known?

Thanks in advance

Matti Salonen 21st November 2013 14:13

Re: Johann(es) Kiefer
 
According to NVM at WASt and DRK Vermisstenbildliste Band KJ, Page 286, Fw Johann Kiefer is still MIA.
Do you know, what happened to him on August 15, 1944 when flying Fw 190 G-3, Werk.-Nr. 190056. The NVM states "Nach Abfangen nicht mehr beobachtet. Bruch 100 %".

Matti

S Sheflin 21st November 2013 22:57

Re: Johann(es) Kiefer
 
Dear Matti,

First, let me thank you for all of your incredible work over the years. You are an amazing fount of knowledge and it is truly appreciated.

Regarding the aircraft of Fw. Kiefer, unless I am mistaken a Werknummer from within the 190XXX series would make it an Fw190G-8 rather than an Fw190G-3.

Steve Sheflin

Frans A 21st November 2013 23:49

Re: Johann(es) Kiefer
 
Bart,
I have the following information:
Oblt. Wilhelm Bergmann III/KG 4 POW 45-05-08 Russia
Fw. Josef Blümel 10.(Pz)/SG 5 KIA 44-09-19 Kekava (Ru)
Ofw. Siegfried Fischer 9./StG. 1 POW 45-04-21 Russia
Lt. Alfred Lausch 8./JG 4 KIA 44-09-11 Reitzenhain / Komotau (D)
Hptm. Rudolf Miethig 3./JG 52 KIA 43-06-10 Krymskaja (Ru)
Oblt. Leopold Münster 5./JG 3 KIA44-05-08 Wöllersheim (D)

Frans.A

Matti Salonen 22nd November 2013 08:30

Re: Johann(es) Kiefer
 
Steve, of course you are right. It was my typo (old eyes). I have in the database correct G-8. Thanks for your attention.

Matti


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