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James A Pratt III 18th December 2013 01:52

Ju-86P and R losses
 
I am looking for a list of Ju-86P and R recon aircraft losses. Here is what I have:
15 Apr 41 D-APEW shot down VVS fighters crew POW later escapes

? ? 41 1 FTL weather Vinnista Russia

20 Aug 42 W.Nr 5097 100% 288 & 2194 each 10% 1(F)/100 on ground air raid in Russia

In the Med off the Eygptian coast

24 Aug 42 W.Nr 5114 2 (F)/123 ditch Hpt Bayer and observer rescued by Do-24 7SNS downed by F/O G. Reynolds

6 Sep 42 1 shot down?

2 Jul 43 4U+IK 2(F)/123 Ltn Franz Stock and observer MIA shot down 2 Spitfires 80 Sqn and 2 Spitfires 103 MU

26 jun42 1 engaged by Spitfire 63 Sqn

27 Jun 42 1 engaged by Spitfire 103 MU

Peter Achs 18th December 2013 13:38

Re: Ju-86P and R losses
 
What do you want with this information?

For example:
The crash of the Ju 86 P-2 D-APEW (W-Nr. 5141) and its consequences is described in detail in the book from Günther W. Gellermann: Moskau ruft Heeresgruppe Mitte (in German). The pilot of the D-APEW Albert Schnetz, later TO of the Vers.Verb.Ob.d.L./OKL, wrote his memoirs after the war.

Regards
Peter

RT 18th December 2013 15:56

Re: Ju-86P and R losses
 
For the one of 1941, date is 15.April , you could find some data on the book on the KG200

Rémi

Brian 18th December 2013 16:29

Re: Ju-86P and R losses
 
I think the Med incidents are covered in the book FIGHTERS OVER THE AEGEAN

Cheers
Brian

Brian Bines 18th December 2013 18:52

Re: Ju-86P and R losses
 
Have you tried the Dornier Do-24 Homepage on http://www.dornier24.com/ under 'stories' on the leftside col. story and photos of the rescue of the crew of 5144 on 29th Aug.42 crew shown as Hpt.Rammig and Ltn Kolw. Also reported on page 3 of GQM dated 1-9-42 (no crewnames shown)

Mirek Wawrzynski 18th December 2013 19:41

Re: Ju-86P and R losses
 
15 Apr 41 D-APEW shot down VVS fighters crew POW later escapes

It was force landing not shot down due to eginge failure, one owa earlier switch off. Of course Ju 86 was detected and chatched by Soviet pilot from 46. IAP on I-16. Pilot did not open fire to it or "victim". Plane forece landed on Soviet territory near Równo (ex-Polish town).


Regards,
mirekw

RT 18th December 2013 19:42

Re: Ju-86P and R losses
 
As peter is looking around, nd was kind enought to supply the Wn of the Ju86 of lost in april 41, does he know the Wn of the Ju 52 D-ASBW that italian fighters chased on 12.Mai 1942 ??

Rémi

Brian 18th December 2013 20:28

Re: Ju-86P and R losses
 
Hi Remi

What's the story behind D-ABSW and Italian fighters on 12 May 1942?

Cheers
Brian

RT 19th December 2013 19:36

Re: Ju-86P and R losses
 
Hello Brian,

On 12 th of may 1941 around 12 O'clock , the Bordschutz Oge Mohaupt heinz ,of the Ju52 D-ASBW , unit = San.Flugbereitschaft der X.Fl.Kps, was killed , plane was attacked by ital. fighters undamaged it hv to forceland in Bengasi

Rémi

So just missing, the Wn of this plane ....

Brian 21st December 2013 16:26

Re: Ju-86P and R losses
 
Many thanks Remi

All the best

Brian


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