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Mifletz 7th January 2006 01:31

Cockpit & cabin heating
 
Were the cabins or cockpit of any Axis or Allied warplanes heated in WWII? How was the heating achieved?

fsbofk 7th January 2006 02:32

Re: Cockpit & cabin heating
 
I believe many, if not most, Allied fighters included cockpit heating. Among this group, the P-38 Lightning's heating was notoriously poor, such that pilots on long escort missions in the ETO suffered from the effects of the cold. Warren Bodie's The Lockheed P-38 Lightning includes a list entitled "15 Bad Points of the Lockheed P-38" - the fourth item "Insufficient cockpit heat" follows three of the P-38's major problems concerning the engines, wing intercooler, and compressibility.

atckyrre 7th January 2006 05:08

Re: Cockpit & cabin heating
 
Meanwhile I think I've read that the Mustang got really hot, to the point where it would get unpleasant. Don't know which versions though.

K

Colin Cox 3rd February 2006 22:11

Re: Cockpit & cabin heating
 
The Typhoon was also notorious for its heat, I recall reading somewhere that temperatures could reach as high as 100 degrees on a summers day, that coupled with its exhaust problems must have made it very uncomfortable.

George Hopp 4th February 2006 19:17

Re: Cockpit & cabin heating
 
Remember, for the single-engined fighters, the engine was just ahead of the pilot, so there was never a lack of heat there, and in most cases you will find cooling vents, and not heating vents on those a/c.

But, with the twin-engined a/c, with nothing in the nose but cold air, a special heater had to be installed for the pilot/crew. Usually it consisted of some form of hot air piped in from the exhaust system.

Don Christensen 5th February 2006 01:00

Re: Cockpit & cabin heating
 
B-17 crews had flight suits that plugged into and were heated by plane's electrical system. Fairly important with temperatures of 40 to 50 below over 25,000'. Don

Six Nifty .50s 5th February 2006 03:49

Re: Cockpit & cabin heating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fsbofk
I believe many, if not most, Allied fighters included cockpit heating. Among this group, the P-38 Lightning's heating was notoriously poor, such that pilots on long escort missions in the ETO suffered from the effects of the cold. Warren Bodie's The Lockheed P-38 Lightning includes a list entitled "15 Bad Points of the Lockheed P-38" - the fourth item "Insufficient cockpit heat" follows three of the P-38's major problems concerning the engines, wing intercooler, and compressibility.


The cockpit heat and canopy frost in the P-38 wasn't any worse than the Spitfire. Pilots who flew long-range PR XI Spitfires can attest to that.

The majority of single-engine fighters did not carry enough fuel to fly at 30,000 feet for long periods (i.e. 4-7 hours). The lack of heat and frostbite was less a problem in short-range fighters because the pilot was exposed to freezing temperatures for a shorter period.


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