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Brian Bines 3rd February 2014 21:08

KG4 losses
 
Amendments to the available GQM lists for 1945 shows the following:-
1/ 4-1-45 I/KG4 Uffz Hadamozik and Uffz Juckel missing
2/ 19-1-45 I/KG4 Uffz Raimund Mueller, Uffz Hess, Uffz Heinz Siebenelehler, Ogef Georg Hartig - no details of their fate or aircraft shown
3/ 20-1-45 III/KG4 shows name of Ogef Freier corrected to Hans Drayer is this related to a losss ?
In addition the KG4 book shows in the middle of January 1945 an aircraft with FF Wiesenpfarth and Bf Fw Salfrank crashed at Kleinen Karpaten (now Male-Karpaty Slovakia), plus at the end of January the crew of Oblt Brankmeier of II/KG4 were lost.
Are the fuller details of any of these losses known please,

Regards

Brian Bines

HGabor 3rd February 2014 22:28

Re: KG4 losses
 
Brian,

8/KG.4 He 111H-20, WNr.:701132 5J+GS was shot down on January 20, 1945 by Soviet 1614 aer. ap PVO and crashed at Budaörs-SE, in the approx. area where the Balaton M7 highway enters Budapest. Crew was KIA.

"1614 ап пво: ЮВ окраина Будаерш, сбит в лучах прожекторов 1 батареей"

Lt. Karl Hergenhan pilot
Uffz. Wilfried Wenzel observer
Uffz. Kurt Schwarz radio op.
Fw. Kurt Loers mech.
Ogfr. Hans-Heinrich Dreyer gunner

Other He 111 on January 19 was also downed by 1416. regiment over Buda. (West)

Gabor

Matti Salonen 3rd February 2014 22:31

Re: KG4 losses
 
1945-01-19, 1./KG 4, He 111 H-20, 700014, Budapest, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Ofw Bräuer, Rolf, vermißt
Beobachter Uffz Müller, Raymund, vermißt
Bordfunker Uffz Rose, Bernhard, vermißt
Bordwart Uffz Siebeneichler, Heinz, vermißt
Bordschütze Ogfr Hartig, Georg, vermißt
1945-01-20, 8./KG 4, He 111 H-20, 701132, 5J+GS, He 111 H-20, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Hergenhan, Karl, vermißt
Kampfbeobachter Uffz Wenzel, Wilfried, vermißt
Bordfunker Uffz Schwarz, Kurt, vermißt
Bordwart Fw Loers, Kurt, vermißt
Loers, Kurt Ogfr Dreyer, Hans-Heinrich, vermißt
1945-01-16, 3./KG 4, He 111 H-20, 700501, Berg Vysoka bei Rohrbach Gänserndorf, Bodenberührung. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Ofw Wiesenfarth, Eduard, +
Beobachter Uffz Stahl, Ludwig, +
Bordfunker Fw Saalfrank, Georg, +
Bordwart Uffz Pollmeier, Heinrich, +
Bordschütze Ogfr Fehrmann, Kurt, +
1945-01-30, Stab II/KG 4, He 111 H-20, 700026, 5J+EC, Kethely, südöstlich Györ, Absturz infolge Motorstörung. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Olt Braukmeier, Ernst. +
Kampfbeobachter Uffz Renz, Paul, +
Bordfunker Uffz Müller, Günter, verletzt
Bordschütze Uffz Bieber, Heinz, verletzt
Bordschütze Uffz Hinrichs, Johann, verletzt

Matti

Brian Bines 4th February 2014 12:17

Re: KG4 losses
 
Gabor and Matti, thank you both very much for providing this information, greatly appreciated,

Regards

Brian Bines

HGabor 4th February 2014 12:46

Re: KG4 losses
 
You're welcome! See some details of He 111 claim on January 20, 1945 from soviet 1614 zenap (flak) regiment papers.

Gabor

Brian Bines 4th February 2014 19:17

Re: KG4 losses
 
Gabor, thanks very much again,

Regards

Brian Bines


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