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steve sheridan 5th February 2014 15:59

Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1
 
Good afternoon, could anybody confirm from the NVM the following loss for 27.10.40.
the usual loss details, particularly first names functions etc.

He111H-2 W.Nr 5541 V4+HW crew of Behres,Heinhold Rosenberg, Hartleib, Saumsiegel.A/c said to be of I/KG1. Lost during sortie to Horsham-St-Faith.

I would have expected this a/c to have been from II/KG1 rather than from I/KG1 bearing mind the code and target area?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Best regs,
Steve.

Matti Salonen 5th February 2014 16:58

Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1
 
1940-10-27, 6./KG 1, He 111 H-2, 5541, V4+HW, Clacton on Sea, 19 km südöstlich Colchester, Notlandung auf See infolge Motorbrand. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Saumsiegel, Walter. gefangen
Beobachter Uffz Heinold, Richard, gefangen
Bordfunker Gefr Bösenberg, Karl, gefangen
Bordmechaniker Uffz Berens, Mathias, gefangen
Bordschütze Gefr Hartleib, Rudi, gefangen

Matti

Nordpol54 5th February 2014 17:08

Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1
 
Steve,

i am still scratching my head (possibly it is empty due to some reason beeing too much and too long online)...
...the "W" in this case isn't pointing to IV./KG 1 - most likely a "Ergänzungsgruppe"?

Best Regards
Norbert

P.S. (edited): Aaah, okay, if Matti isn't right at least, who is?

Chris Goss 5th February 2014 19:09

Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1
 
Look at this post:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=36354

Matti Salonen 5th February 2014 19:15

Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1
 
4., 5. and 6./KG 1 used V4+.U, V and W till mid 1941. After that they were used by IV/KG 1 "by the book".

Matti

Nordpol54 5th February 2014 22:17

Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1
 
Thanks a lot Chris and Matti for clearing up this strange case.

Best Regards
Norbert

steve sheridan 6th February 2014 10:40

Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1
 
Many thanks Matti for clearing this incident up. My assumption on it being an a/c from II/KG1 was indeed correct then!
Thank you to Norbert and Chris for your help.

Kindest regs,
Steve.


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