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Andrei Demjanko 8th February 2014 12:32

Who sunk Dutch trawler Protinus 19.03.1940
 
Hi all,

Although it is generally accepted that the above vessel was lost due to attack by Luftwaffe aircraft, I can not find the German unit responsible, and strong possibility exists it was sunk in error by British aircraft. Could anyone identify what unit the aircraft in question belonged to

hucks216 8th February 2014 12:33

Re: Who sunk Dutch trawler Protinus 19.03.1940
 
According to this link it was KG-26... http://worldwar2daybyday.blogspot.co...h-18-1940.html

Andrei Demjanko 8th February 2014 12:53

Re: Who sunk Dutch trawler Protinus 19.03.1940
 
Thanks for prompt reply, but it's not so simple.

It's generally accepted that Protinus was lost on 18 March, but as far as I know X. Fliegerkorps did not fly operations over the North Sea on that date due to weather. So sometimes date of loss given as 20 March, when they were flying. It was neither. Singapore newspapers of the period, which could be found online, published Reuter report about actions of HM submarines, which mentioned the rescue of survivors from Protinus by HMS Unity. From these date could be deduced as 19 March. One of these articles gives details of the attack on trawler, according to one of the survivors. He stated that the Dutch crew initially identified the aircraft as Allied and waved to its crew
The articles could be found here:
http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/Se...ler%20PROTINUS

hucks216 8th February 2014 13:49

Re: Who sunk Dutch trawler Protinus 19.03.1940
 
The Naval History website also states KG-26 with the attack on 18th March... http://www.naval-history.net/xDKWW2-4003-12MAR02.htm

The Dutch crew could of easily misidentified the aircraft and believed it to be Allied until it attacked.

Andrei Demjanko 8th February 2014 14:19

Re: Who sunk Dutch trawler Protinus 19.03.1940
 
I'm aware of what Naval History site and other websites says. The problem with this is:

1) as far as I know KG 26 flew no operations on 18 March

2) When HMS Unity rescued the Dutch crew on 25 March, they stated they were in a boat for six days before being rescued (ie since 19 March) In the articles for which I provided link in my previous post the date of attack given as 'last Tuesday'. So one could open calendar for 1940 online and see that 19 March 1940 was Tuesday

I have no information about German anti-shipping operations over the North Sea (if there were any) on 19 March. [On the other hand RAF flew operations over Heligoland Bight on this date] That's why I'm asking. Nevertheless, thanks for the interest and ideas, any sugessions and information are welcome

robert 8th February 2014 14:57

Re: Who sunk Dutch trawler Protinus 19.03.1940
 
Hi,

no missions were flown by German units on 18.3. and 19.3.40 over the North Sea due to bad weather.

Regards

Robert

Jaap Woortman 8th February 2014 15:19

Re: Who sunk Dutch trawler Protinus 19.03.1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robert (Post 179726)
Hi,

no missions were flown by German units on 18.3. and 19.3.40 over the North Sea due to bad weather.

Regards Robert

Bad weather?
See http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/i/q/Mar1940.pdf

Jaap

Andrei Demjanko 8th February 2014 15:30

Re: Who sunk Dutch trawler Protinus 19.03.1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robert (Post 179726)
no missions were flown by German units on 18.3. and 19.3.40 over the North Sea due to bad weather.

Robert, thanks for the confirmation. So apparently it was indeed RAF aircraft



Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaap Woortman (Post 179728)
Bad weather?
Jaap

Jaap, yes, bad weather. From your link:
...mild weather with occasional rain prevailed on the 17th local and 18th and squally showers and thunderstorms on the 19th...
and
Thunderstorms occured locally on the 18th-19th

edwest 9th February 2014 00:16

Re: Who sunk Dutch trawler Protinus 19.03.1940
 
This is what I have.

http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php...8948#msg-18948




Ed

Kari Lumppio 9th February 2014 01:12

Re: Who sunk Dutch trawler Protinus 19.03.1940
 
Hello!

Not sure if this has any connection with the Protinus, but German Naval Staff war diary (English translation!) for March 20th, 1940 writes:
(North Sea)
"Air reconnaissance led to various brushes with British trawlers on the Dogger Bank. One trawler was obviously sunk by a hit in its vicinity."

See:
https://archive.org/stream/wardiaryg...e/126/mode/2up

The war diary is not clear when the incident happened. May have been late 19th March, too? Original German diary may be clearer.

The diary also describes the RAF attacks on 19th March.


Cheers,
Kari


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