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Melvin Brownless 23rd February 2014 16:26

Ju 88 Force landed in Scotland
 
Hi All,

Can anyone identify this Ju 88 which came down in Scotland. I think I have seen another view of this crash and believe it could be a recon machine? Any further details would be appreciated.

Melvin

www.aircrewremembrancesociety.co.uk

Clint Mitchell 23rd February 2014 17:03

Re: Ju 88 Force landed in Scotland
 
Melvin, I believe this is:

25/12/40
Ju88A-5 (D-2? Has long wings)
Crash landed in a field near Flotterson, South of Loch Skail, Sandwick, Orkney.
3.(F)/22
WNr.0535
4N+AL
Shot down by a Grumman Martlet of 804 Squadron of the Fleet Air Arm, based at RNAS Skeabrae.

Chris Goss 23rd February 2014 17:03

Re: Ju 88 Force landed in Scotland
 
It is this loss

edNorth 23rd February 2014 18:00

Re: Ju 88 Force landed in Scotland
 
This was Ju 88 A-5 F (Fernerkunder)
W.Nr. 0880535 4N+AL

later taken elsewhere
www.flickr.com/photos/20087013@N02/8268862204/in/photostream
www.flickr.com/photos/20087013@N02/8267792991/in/photostream/

*There is good online references on how German RLM Aircraft Designations were written.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RLM_air...gnation_system

**Long wing did not indentifiy if Ju 88 D-2 or not.
The new Ju 88 D-2 designation was suggested by JFM Dessau and approved by the RLM on 15.03.1941 (In effect no D-2 exist before that time!) Usually (three) Rb 30/50 mapping cameras in rear bomb bay in A-5 F version were relocated to aft of Frame 15 - in both Ju 88 D-2 and Ju 88 D-1, thus one more internal Fuel tank could be carried, but numbers of Rb 30/50 mapping cameras (usually) reduced to two.

Regards
Ed

Clint Mitchell 23rd February 2014 18:50

Re: Ju 88 Force landed in Scotland
 
What are you referring to Ed with the link to how German RLM Aircraft Designations 'were' written?

edNorth 23rd February 2014 19:44

Re: Ju 88 Force landed in Scotland
 
For your info only.

Regards
Ed

Clint Mitchell 23rd February 2014 20:15

Re: Ju 88 Force landed in Scotland
 
How petty, childish, and sad of you to continually snipe about how the designations of Luftwaffe aircraft are supposed to be written (in printed format!!). Surely you have better things to do with your life than think up ways to slip in these snide comments whenever someone even remotely connected to LEMB posts on here. Get a life Ed.

Matti Salonen 23rd February 2014 20:15

Re: Ju 88 Force landed in Scotland
 
Is there any explanation, why Focke-Wulf was always written "FW" in GQM loss reports?

Also, in the same reports sub-version numbers are always written together with version letter, i.e. FW 190 A8 and not Fw 190 A-8. Is there any official document covering correct writing of RLM type designations in the Luftwaffe?

Matti

Clint Mitchell 23rd February 2014 20:29

Re: Ju 88 Force landed in Scotland
 
He's pathetic Matti. Does it really matter how a designation is written on a public forum? We all know what it refers to no matter what way it's written. Troll springs to mind. The whole purpose of no gaps is so the forum search functions can work effectively.

Matti Salonen 23rd February 2014 21:08

Re: Ju 88 Force landed in Scotland
 
I don't care how a designation is written on this forum and as long as the numbers and letters are in correct order I will understand, what we are talking about.

I want to know, how the things were inside Luftwaffe 70 years ago and why there seems to be inconsistencies. We all know, how exact, meticulous and bureaucratic the Germans were in paperwork and therefore it seems strange, that writing a type designation, which should be self-evident, is so difficult. Or should we believe, that inside Luftwaffe different players used different style?

Matti


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