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Skybert 19th January 2006 10:13

Who are these luftwaffe pilots
 
Hi, I'm looking for a positive ID on these Luftwaffe pilots.You may have seen this previously, but I'm reposting to see if anyone can come up with new leads.
I have story behind the ID of this Spitfire and it's loss story, and I can share it with you a bit later, but first want to see if anyone can ID on faces without facts that might not be correct. That is the issue with internet research; after a while things start echoing and creating their own truths..

Bert

kww1906 19th January 2006 13:26

Re: Who are these luftwaffe pilots
 
Upper photo: almost certainly Hptm Oesau but this Leutnant - ???
Lower photo: Hptm Oesau and probably ObLt Mölders (his Eiserne Kravatte looks like RK+EL)
The Spit is the well-known P7665 YT-L flown by P/O Gill, 65 Sqn, s/d on Feb. 5th 1941 :)

kww1906

Skybert 19th January 2006 19:32

Re: Who are these luftwaffe pilots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kww1906
Upper photo: almost certainly Hptm Oesau but this Leutnant - ???
Lower photo: Hptm Oesau and probably ObLt Mölders (his Eiserne Kravatte looks like RK+EL)
The Spit is the well-known P7665 YT-L flown by P/O Gill, 65 Sqn, s/d on Feb. 5th 1941 :)

kww1906

Thx kww1906,

What sources make you say that it's 'well-known'?
Date is correct, Oesau identified on the pics by others as well. Victories on feb 5 in region of St Omer do not list him for victory but a few others:

Luftwaffe claims on february 5th, 1941 in France in the area of St. Omer include:
Lt. Helmut Meckel
2./JG 3
Spitfire
Code unknown
Time 10
1 km. N.W. St. Omer
Lt. Helmut Meckel
2./JG 3
Spitfire
Code unknown
Time 11
5 km. N.W. St. Omer
Ofe. Robert Olejnik
2./JG 3
Spitfire
Code unknown
Time 5
10 km. N.W. St. Omer
Fw. Ernst Heesen
2./JG 3
Spitfire
Code unknown
Time1
10 km. N.W. St.Omer
Fw. Hans Ehlers
2./JG 3
Spitfire
Code unknown
Time 5
10 km. N.W. St. Omer


If any one has a pic from Meckel we could compare.

Pilot of the Spitfire was Geoffrey Hill, not Gill. I'm still looking for a pic of him; he was made POW


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