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hewasahero 7th June 2014 21:04

The blue PRU Spitfire PR.XI shot down Nijmegen 20 Sept1944
 
Anyone know who claimed this kill?

Chris Goss 8th June 2014 11:49

Re: The blue PRU Spitfire PR.XI shot down Nijmegen 20 Sept1944
 
I can see no fighter claims for Spitfires on this date

Snautzer 8th June 2014 14:30

Re: The blue PRU Spitfire PR.XI shot down Nijmegen 20 Sept1944
 
Spitfire PR.XI PL834 16 Sqdn Figher
Spitfire PR.XI PA893 16 Sqdn Fighter

http://batchgeo.com/map/a1cda95c62f5...56121afa18c106

Snautzer 8th June 2014 15:06

Re: The blue PRU Spitfire PR.XI shot down Nijmegen 20 Sept1944
 
Map for all losses RAf september 1944 can be found here: http://batchgeo.com/map/e5ee258f005c...5b76718a55dd30

All my interactive maps contain data on more levels be it location, airplane type etc. All searchable strings ( like i.g. day fighter or a date.) in a map can be found by clicking on a single pin on a map
  • Option 1 Search bar. Enter the required search string into the google like search bar. (black circle) See for string option pic 1
  • Option 2 The coloured circle. (Highlighted with a yellow circle) This means there is a cluster of events. By clicking on this a more zoomed in view will appear. Repeat when needed.
  • Option 3 The pins at the bottom of the map.(Red high lighted circle) The are the dividers I used to project the data. By clicking on it you will get all event concerning that item. So by clicking pin "Bomber" all crashed bomber locations with data as seen in pic on will appear.

hewasahero 9th June 2014 00:31

Re: The blue PRU Spitfire PR.XI shot down Nijmegen 20 Sept1944
 
Re: '8th June 2014, 12:30', I like the idea of this interactive map. Unfortunately, the information on it is not correct. According to the 16 Sqdn ORBs, the two aircraft that were shot down that day were PL834 and PL896, not PL834 and PA893. Also, according to the pilot of PL834, he crashed in a field near Wolfheze, west of Arnhem (not Wolfhezestraat, Den Haag), and an eyewitness says PL896 just missed crashing into his house in Hees, Nijmegen, which rules out Dorpsstraat, Oosterhout as too far away. Dorpsstraat, Hees is far more likely.

hewasahero 9th June 2014 00:38

Re: The blue PRU Spitfire PR.XI shot down Nijmegen 20 Sept1944
 
Re: '8th June 2014, 13:06', again I like the map. But although this map is titled 'Raf losses over Holland September 1944', the dates selectable at the bottom of the page are only within November 1944…

Snautzer 10th June 2014 14:06

Re: The blue PRU Spitfire PR.XI shot down Nijmegen 20 Sept1944
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hewasahero (Post 185563)
Re: '8th June 2014, 12:30', I like the idea of this interactive map. Unfortunately, the information on it is not correct. According to the 16 Sqdn ORBs, the two aircraft that were shot down that day were PL834 and PL896, not PL834 and PA893. Also, according to the pilot of PL834, he crashed in a field near Wolfheze, west of Arnhem (not Wolfhezestraat, Den Haag), and an eyewitness says PL896 just missed crashing into his house in Hees, Nijmegen, which rules out Dorpsstraat, Oosterhout as too far away. Dorpsstraat, Hees is far more likely.

Strange as according to the Dutch Airwar Studygroup 1939-1945 it is:
http://sglo.rm-webdesign.com/zoek-t-...php?SGLO=T4203
http://sglo.rm-webdesign.com/zoek-t-...php?SGLO=T4204

Snautzer 10th June 2014 14:12

Re: The blue PRU Spitfire PR.XI shot down Nijmegen 20 Sept1944
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hewasahero (Post 185563)
Wolfheze, west of Arnhem (not Wolfhezestraat, Den Haag),

Mapping error : corrected

hewasahero 11th June 2014 00:54

Re: The blue PRU Spitfire PR.XI shot down Nijmegen 20 Sept1944
 
Thanks Snautzer. Do you have the September 1944 losses map too, please? There was no house numbered '160' on Dorpsstraat, Hees in 1940 (although there was a '158' and a '162'), and little likelihood of it having been built between then and 1944.

The SGLO Verlieslijst is a work in progress. As new or revised information reaches the group, the list is revised correspondingly. Here's the email address in the event that you have revised information for them: verliesregister@studiegroepluchtoorlog.nl

That's why you can find different version numbers of the list online, with different dates, as the information has been revised and the list reissued. There's original documentation for 'PL896' being the correct serial. Would like to see original documentation for 'PA893' instead. It's very easy to get led 'down the garden path' with this kind of research…

Nick Beale 11th June 2014 00:57

Re: The blue PRU Spitfire PR.XI shot down Nijmegen 20 Sept1944
 
Unless somebody returns to the original question, this thread is moving to the Allied and Soviet Forum.


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