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steven1 24th June 2014 01:28

4/schlachtgeschwader 103
 
Can any tell me if this squadron was operational on d-day
I believe they werw using JU87.
Any info is appreciated.

ju55dk 24th June 2014 09:13

Re: 4/schlachtgeschwader 103
 
It was a training unit, so unlikely.

J

Matti Salonen 24th June 2014 09:43

Re: 4/schlachtgeschwader 103
 
GQM has the following losses of Eins.-St./SG 103, but NVMs are scare. Also, the definitions of aircraft version are quite strange to me. I have tried to "correct" them using WNr. info and statistics of SG 103 aircraft. Original is given at the end of line.

1944-06-06 Ju 87 D-1 2094 Voves, 22 km südöstlich Chartres Notlandung infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß. Bruch 60 %. GQM: Ju 87 C-4.
1944-06-06 Ju 87 D-1 2398 45 km südwestlich Chartres Notlandung infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß. Bruch 65 %. Gestrichen 7868. WASt: 2./SG 103.
1944-06-06 Ju 87 D-3 2196 Baucvilliers bei Chartres Absturz infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß. Bruch 100 %. GQM: Ju 87 B-6.
1944-06-06 Ju 87 D-3 2653 Voves, 22 km südöstlich Chartres Absturz infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß. Bruch 100 %. GQM: Ju 87 A-3. Auch 1942-12-29, 2./St.G 2, 100 %.
1944-06-06 Ju 87 D-3 131194 Voves, 22 km südöstlich Chartres Notlandung infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß. Bruch 60 %. GQM: Ju 87 C-4, 1194.
1944-06-06 Ju 87 D-3 131214 Chartres Absturz infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß. Bruch 100 %. GQM: Ju 87 C, 1214. WASt: 4./SG 103.
1944-06-06 Ju 87 D-3 131247 Voves, 22 km südöstlich Chartres Absturz infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß. Bruch 100 %. GQM: Ju 87, 1247.
1944-06-06 Ju 87 D-3 131289 Voves, 22 km südöstlich Chartres Absturz infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß. Bruch 80 %. GQM: Ju 87 C-3, 1289.
1944-06-06 Ju 87 D-3 Voves, 22 km südöstlich Chartres Notlandung infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß. Bruch 40 %. GQM. Ju 87 H-6.


Matti

Nick Beale 24th June 2014 09:43

Re: 4/schlachtgeschwader 103
 
There was a thread about this before (I think it was here but it may have been on LEMB) so a search for "SG 103" may turn something up. As I remember it, American fighters intercepted a group of Ju 87s that were apparently on their way to the invasion area.

Chris Goss 24th June 2014 10:49

Re: 4/schlachtgeschwader 103
 
These ac were rushed to the Front but shot down (massacred?) in transit so they were not operational in the strict sense of the word

drgondog 28th June 2014 13:35

Re: 4/schlachtgeschwader 103
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steven1 (Post 186079)
Can any tell me if this squadron was operational on d-day
I believe they werw using JU87.
Any info is appreciated.

They (SG 103)were sent to attack the beach head very late in the afternoon, low and very close to the deck. They were spotted around 2050 by the 357FS and 354FS of the 355th FG and virtually annihilated between Janville and Chartres. My father was flying his first day of Combat and shot one of them down.

Larry deZeng 28th June 2014 14:26

Re: 4/schlachtgeschwader 103
 
Einsatzstaffel/SG 103 (under 3. Fliegerschuldivision) ordered up from Metz-Frescaty for immediate operational deployment to Le Mans for a planned morning 7 June attack on invasion shipping off Caen but intercepted and decimated by Allied fighters over Voves/24 km SSE of Chartres.

Sources:
ULTRA Signal XL4610;
Prien, Jochen and Peter Rodeike, Jagdgeschwader 1 und 11: Einsatz in der Reichverteidigung von 1939 bis 1945; Band 2, s.1012;
Dierich, Wolfgang, Die Verbände der Luftwaffe 1935-1945: Gliederungen und Kurzchroniken – Eine Dokumentation (Stuttgart, 1976), s.271.

FWIW,

L.


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