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kaki3152 6th July 2014 21:05

FW190 photo-Any ideas
 
I've been collecting LW images for over 15 years and now have about 3700 photos. One of these images is of this FW-190A with victory markings on the tail. Any ideas?

Roger Gaemperle 6th July 2014 21:16

Re: FW190 photo-Any ideas
 
Hello kaki3152, that looks more like some of the fabric between ribs is missing?

kaki3152 6th July 2014 22:03

Re: FW190 photo-Any ideas
 
It could be, I'm going to increase the size of the photo and re-post.

ChristianK 6th July 2014 23:32

Re: FW190 photo-Any ideas
 
Hi there,
this is Fw 190 A-2 Werknr. 513 "Red (?) 17", captured at an unknown location (possibly in France or Western Germany) by US forces. Six more photos of it can be seen in "Wings of the Black Cross, Vol. One".

Cheers :)
Christian

EDIT: And yes - no victory markings, just torn fabric

kaki3152 7th July 2014 04:18

Re: FW190 photo-Any ideas
 
Roger and Christina,

Thanks! Now I can assign an identity to this picture.

S Sheflin 7th July 2014 19:27

Re: FW190 photo-Any ideas
 
Hello everyone,

Sorry to be a little late to the party, but for what it’s worth, I list this aircraft as being Fw190A-3 WNr.130513, DF+GM, marked as 17+ red outlined white, and found at Gosselies, Belgium in 1944. I have several other photographs of this aircraft. Finally, as is often the case with my information, one of my sources is the collection of James V. Crow.

Steve Sheflin

ChristianK 7th July 2014 19:39

Re: FW190 photo-Any ideas
 
Thanks Steve for pinning down the location! :) I thought the vegetation looked NW European...

S Sheflin 13th July 2014 04:33

Re: FW190 photo-Any ideas
 
Hello again Christian,

My face is red! I may have been wrong about the Fw190, 17+ that you posted above. Further research suggests that it may actually be: Fw190F-3/R4, WNr. 670129, 17+ (yellow o/l white), GT+DI, SG103, 45/02/21, Fl.Pl. Metz-Frescaty, France, source = CEA266.

Sorry for the possibly incorrect information.

Steve Sheflin

Merlin 13th July 2014 11:26

Re: FW190 photo-Any ideas
 
Sorry to disturb the party.

This aircraft is obviously an early Fw 190A version and not a Fw 190G-3 - have a look to the design of the upper end of the fin.

On other photos the numbers "513" are clearly readable at the fin. It's not the Fw 190A-3 WNr. 0513, wich was a 100%-lost over North Africa on 19.07.42. The aircraft is Fw 190A-3 WNr. 5513 made by Arado Warnemünde. This company often painted only the last three digits of the WNr. on the fin. WNr. 5513 has had two light accidents with II./JG 2 during summer/autumn 1942. It was repaired and served later as a trainer.

Location and unit of the last user are still unknown.

kaki3152 13th July 2014 14:41

Re: FW190 photo-Any ideas
 
Merlin, Thanks for the added information.


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