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edwest

15th August 2014 01:07

Photos 8-14

Marc-André Haldimann

15th August 2014 02:37

Re: Photos 8-14

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=361018854208
Fw 190 F-8 W.Nr. unknown "Schwarze ?", 8./SG 2, Neubiberg, Summer 1945.

Thanks again, Ed!
Marc

edwest

15th August 2014 05:27

Re: Photos 8-14

You're welcome, Marc. I wish I could have posted more but more of my time is being demanded elsewhere.

Best,
Ed

S Sheflin

16th August 2014 01:21

Re: Photos 8-14

Hello Ed and marc,

Regarding Post#1 and #2, after carefully comparing equipment, markings and distinctive characteristics, I believe that the Fw190 in question was photographed at Straubing and not Neubiberg. Several facts support my thesis: All of the Fw190F-8s at Neubiberg carried II.Gruppe bars not III.Gruppe bars (except for a few brand new unmarked Fw190F-9s). Also, note the looming P-47 prop in the foreground; Neubiberg was occupied by the 357th FG with P-51 Mustangs not Thunderbolts.

Instead, I suggest that this aircraft is: Fw190F-8, WNr. 580351, 5+ I black, surrendered at Straubing, Germany.

Thank you again both for your hard work.

Steve Sheflin

edwest

16th August 2014 02:41

Re: Photos 8-14

You're welcome, Steve. It's like digging for treasure, which I enjoy :)

Best,
Ed

edwest

16th August 2014 03:12

Re: Photos 8-14

A few more items.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=111436164518

Photo album
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=201147138475
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=201147869964

Flugbuch (buyer beware)

Usual disclaimer,
Ed

edwest

16th August 2014 03:18

Re: Photos 8-14

Flugbuch correction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=331289280824

Usual disclaimer,
Ed

ArtieBob

18th August 2014 23:48

Re: Photos 8-14

The photo identified in post #6 might possibly be a Bf 110, coded M8+Bx. If that were correct, then the Gruppe could be II./KG 76. The date on the back of the photo was 9 September 1940. Reviewing the sources I have for the losses prior to that date, M8+BM (W.Nr.3257) was shot down near Dover on 30 August 1940. That is quite a distance from London, but perhaps someone has better information on either that loss or perhaps yet another loss which better would fit the situation. I could be wrong on all counts, but details of the wreckage do suggest a Bf 110 and the "M" and "B" are quite clear on the image.

Best regards,

Artie Bob

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