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SALERNO1943 29th September 2014 00:10

From a B-24 crash site near Potenza. Some idea?
 
We find a Pratt & Whitney label with serial n. 41-43759 come from a B-24 crashsite near Potenza. This aircraft was shot down in 1943. Do you can help us to identify aircraft with this engine? Thanks.

http://www.archeologidellaria.org/in...ch=22082;image

Tony Kambic 30th September 2014 15:39

Re: From a B-24 crash site near Potenza. Some idea?
 
All of the MACR I have ever viewed have the engine numbers. If you believe this may have been a 'missing' aircraft for which an MACR was created, then any clues to narrow to a group, date, markings, etc. would help.

SALERNO1943 30th September 2014 16:59

Re: From a B-24 crash site near Potenza. Some idea?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Kambic (Post 189823)
All of the MACR I have ever viewed have the engine numbers. If you believe this may have been a 'missing' aircraft for which an MACR was created, then any clues to narrow to a group, date, markings, etc. would help.

Thanks. I think this engine number was of a B-24 shot down at 17 july or 16 august 1943. Do you can verify if in the MACRs of that date there is a engine number like this? Thanks!

Tony Kambic 1st October 2014 00:01

Re: From a B-24 crash site near Potenza. Some idea?
 
For starters:

Date Type Tail-Number Unit Location MACR
430716 B-24 42-40649 376 SICILY 183
430716 B-24 42-40236 376 ITALY 184
430716 B-24 42-40110 376 ITALY 185
430717 B-24 42-63763 44 ITALY 149

Tony Kambic 1st October 2014 00:08

Re: From a B-24 crash site near Potenza. Some idea?
 
From Joe Baugher:

42-40649 (376th BG, 514th BS) shot down by Fw. Uwe Krais in Bf 109G-6 of JG 3/10. 5 km E of Tricarico, Italy Jul 16, 1943. 1 KIA, 9 POW. MACR 183.

42-40236 (376th BG, 513th BS) shot down by Fw. Heinrich Steis in Bf 109G-6 of JG 27/4. near Potenza, Italy Jul 16, 1943. 6 KIA, 4 POW. MACR 184.

42-40110 (376th BG, 513th BS) presumed shot down by Fw. Anton Wöffen in Bf 109G-6 of JG 27/5. 10 km SW of Altamura, Italy Jul 16, 1943. 3 KIA, 6 POW. MACR 185.

42-63763 (44th BG, 67th BS, "Lady Fifinilla") hit by AAA, then shot down by a Bf 109G-6 near Avellino, Italy Jul 17, 1943. 3 KIA, 5 POW, 2 evaded. MACR 149.

Tony Kambic 1st October 2014 00:28

Re: From a B-24 crash site near Potenza. Some idea?
 
I misread: Aug 16:

41-23817 (44th BG, 67th BS, *Suzy Q*) shot down by Bf 109s and crashed
near Reggio di Calabria, Italy during mission to Foggia, Italy Aug 16, 1943, Italy. MACR 2445 and 3261. 10 KIA All crew killed.

42-40606 (44th BG, 506th BS, "Timba-A-Ah") shot down by Bf 109G-6 flown by Uff Fritz Willinger of JG3/12 Aug 16, 1943 near San Fele, Italy. MACR 15549 and 2451. 5 KIA, 5 POW.

42-23778 (44th BG, 66th BS, "Jenny/Lady Luck") shot down by Uffz
Friedrich Scheer in Bf 109G-6/Trop of JG 53/8 at Ruoti, Italy Aug 16, 1943. MACR 3150 9 KIA, 1 POW.

42-40373 (44th BG, 68th BS, "Natchez-Belle") shot down by fighter
Aug 16, 1943, Italy. MACR 3558. 3 KIA, 7 POW.

SALERNO1943 1st October 2014 09:28

Re: From a B-24 crash site near Potenza. Some idea?
 
Thanks to eveyone that give precious informations! However these aircraft are crashed not near the place we find this crash. In 16 august 1943 in the same mission was shot down 2 B-24 Buzzin' Bear and Southern Comfort but they have not MACRs. How I can know serial number of engines of these aircraft?

Tony Kambic 1st October 2014 15:41

Re: From a B-24 crash site near Potenza. Some idea?
 
That will possibly involve research at NARA for the Bomb Group's accident reports. I will be going to NARA in November but I cannot promise anything at this time. I will be in touch later this month.

Tony

Dover Dave 13th July 2016 20:36

Re: From a B-24 crash site near Potenza. Some idea?
 
Wondering if these wrecks have been found and marked, or if there are remnants still there? My father's B-24 (Timba-a-ah!) was shot down Aug 16, 1943 near Potenza, Italy. I've long contemplated trying to locate the wreck site. BTW the engine serial numbers on Timba-a-ah! did not match those posted by Salerno.

SALERNO1943 12th October 2016 18:22

Re: From a B-24 crash site near Potenza. Some idea?
 
Any news dear friends? Thanks!


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