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Brian 6th December 2014 23:13

Lw losses in Med early-mid 1941
 
Hi guys

I'm endeavouring to identify the crews of these following aircraft losses:

21 March 1941: Ju88 L1+DM of 5./LG1

10 April 1941: two Ju52s of I/KGrzbV.9 (pilots Kastl and Heyer)

11 April 1941: Do24N of Seenot.6

1 June 1941: He111 of II/KG4 - two survivors rescued and PoW

Any help appreciated

Cheers
Brian

Andreas Brekken 7th December 2014 01:41

Re: Lw losses in Med early-mid 1941
 
Hi.

21.03.1941:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=113667

20.04.1941 (not 10.04.1941):
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=134455
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=134454

21.04.1941 (not 11.04.1941):
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=127721

01.06.1941:
Can´t find a good match for this one.

Regards,
Andreas B

Matti Salonen 7th December 2014 07:58

Re: Lw losses in Med early-mid 1941
 
Maybe your POWs from 1.6.41 were from this:
1941-05-17, 4./KG 4, He 111 P-2, 2156, 5J+KM, (Suez-kanal), Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Börner, Hans, vermißt
Beobachter Fw Hahn, Helmut, vermißt
Bordfunker Uffz Vertens, Peter, vermißt
Bordmechaniker Fw Püschel, Hans, vermißt

Matti

byron- 7th December 2014 11:29

Re: Lw losses in Med early-mid 1941
 
Hi,

This plane was with the Sonderkommando Junck

Brian 8th December 2014 01:21

Re: Lw losses in Med early-mid 1941
 
Hi guys

Thanks for all the information - excellent!

Byron says Ju88 downed on 1 June was from Sonnerkommando Junck - does that help identify the crew?

I wonder if we can now identify the crew of the following Med losses:

1 December 1941: 4U+JK of 2.(F)/123
30 December 1941: 4U+HK of 2.(F)/123
28 February 1942: Ju88 of I/LG1

Thanks in advance
Brian

hucks216 8th December 2014 14:17

Re: Lw losses in Med early-mid 1941
 
28th Feb 1942
3./LG-1
Sidi Barani
Ju-88A4 L1+NL (8613)
FF - Oberleutnant Adolf Kottmeier
BO - Obergefreiter Theodor Strauss
BF - Obergefreiter Gerhard Kopriva
BS - Obergefreiter Ernst Domes

All listed as Missing.
Shot down by aircraft from 805 Sqn (Flight Lt's Fell & Jenkins)

Source: Die Geschichte Des Lehrgeschwaders 1 Band 2 by Peter Taghon

Three of the crew are listed in the DRK Volume for aircrew although there is a discrepancy with 2 of them with regards to the area they were lost in.

byron- 8th December 2014 14:54

Re: Lw losses in Med early-mid 1941
 
Hello Brian,

I ment that plain of 4./KG 4, He 111 P-2,

Brian 8th December 2014 20:57

Re: Lw losses in Med early-mid 1941
 
Hi guys

I now believe the claim on 1 June was for a Ju88 and not a He111. Are we able to identify unit and crew?

And how about 4U+JK on 1 December and 4U+HK on 30 December 1941?

Cheers
Brian

Andreas Brekken 8th December 2014 21:51

Re: Lw losses in Med early-mid 1941
 
Hello,

if you are talking about a claim for June 1st 1941, and not an incident with two crew members POW there is one possible match - even if it would not constitute a confirmed kill:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=126937

No information on the crew I am afraid.

01.12.1941:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=158175

30.12.1941:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=157527

and hucks has given you the data for February 28th 1942:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=155720

Regards,
Andreas B


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