Do 18 loss on or around 24.05.1941
 

Hello
Does anyone have any details of Do 18 (or another German flying boat) loss on or around 24.05.1941 in ETO?
Thanks

Re: Do 18 loss on or around 24.05.1941
 

Franek, am not at home but here is what I have. I will check when I get home later tonight to make sure this is all and what I've got here is correct. In addition to these flying boats there are also several seaplanes, from memory mostly He 115s but one or two Ar 196s
Regards

Adam T

14/5/41 - Do 18G from 3./406 WNr. 0896 15% in the seaplanehabour of Trondheim See

15/5/41 - Bv 138C-1 from 2./906 WNr. 0310 023 8L+BK 100% in the seaplane harbour Hornum See. Pilot Lt. J Fried (w) (Stkz. CB+UC)

15/5/41 - Bv 138C-1 from 1./ERg (See) WNr. 0002 009 100% in Kobenhavn See

5/6/41 - Bv 138A-1 from ?./ERg (See) WNr. 0000 378 100% probably off Danzig coast

9/6/41 - Bv 138B-1 from Erprobungsstelle Travemunde WNr. 0002 013 100% location unknown

9/6/41 - Bv 138B-1 from Erprobungstelle Travemunde WNr. 0002 014 100% crashed of Rosenhargen, pilot Dipl.Ing. Friedrick Reciius (+)

13/06/1941 Do 18G from 3./906 WNr 0890 8L+CL 100% crew: Ofw. Willi Hagen Lt. Helmut Ohlendorf (B), Uffz. Fritz Augustin (Bf), Ofw. August Conizianer (Bs) Failed to return from sortie

Re: Do 18 loss on or around 24.05.1941
 

Hallo

The last losses (BV 138 / 2013+2014) from Adam was the same plane. This plane, type B-1, wears skz CP + CP and wnr 2013. It crashed because engine problems.

The BV 138 B-1 / 6H + KH / WNr. 2009 crashed on 12. May 1944 near Kopenhagen/DK.

JoMe

Re: Do 18 loss on or around 24.05.1941
 

Gents
Many thanks but I am afraid neither of them fits my needs. Hmm.

Re: Do 18 loss on or around 24.05.1941
 

I can assure you that there were no serious damage or loss to any Luftwaffe seaplane between 22.05.41 (He 59) and 27.05.41 (ar 196).
If you can prove otherwise, I will love to eat that camel.

Re: Do 18 loss on or around 24.05.1941
 

It is too. My mistake. Thanks for picking that up.

Franek, what exactly are you after?

Adam

Re: Do 18 loss on or around 24.05.1941
 

Gents
A Do 18 was claimed by RAF fighters on this date.

Re: Do 18 loss on or around 24.05.1941
 

Franek,
Can't help you on this one, sorry. I have nothing concerning any seaplanes - Do 18 or otherwise - encountering enemy opposition around this time frame.

Out of interest which unit/crew made the claim and in what area?

Adam

Re: Do 18 loss on or around 24.05.1941
 

Gleed and Thorogood, both 87 Sqn, at 0730 North of Scilly Isles.

Re: Do 18 loss on or around 24.05.1941
 

Any Luftwaffe seaplane operating near the Scilly Isles in May 1941, would most likely come from bases in France. The only seaplane units in France on May 24, 1941, were subordinated to Stab/Kü.Fl.Gr. 406 in Brest. They were 1./106 in Hourtin with He 115, 5./196 in Hourtin with Ar 196, 2./506 and 1./906 both in Brest with He 115. The only ex. Do 18 unit on mainland Europe (apart from Norway), was 2./406 in Hörnum. However, this unit was undergoing conversion to BV 138 and had no Do 18s on strength on 24.05.41. Any other flying boat candidate would be 2./906 in Hörnum with BV 138 and 1./406 in List also with BV 138.
The loss/damage records available are at least three. First the unsual loss/damage reports from Gen.Qu. 6.Abt. Then you have the KTB of General der Luftwaffe beim Ob.d.Marine and the KTB of Oberquartiermeister beim Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M. None of these three primary sources give any loss or serieous damage to a Luftwaffe seaplane on or around the date mentioned here. My conclusion is that the RAF pilots did not shoot down or seriously damage a seaplane on this date. However, this not the only similar case to occur during the war.