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Tom1UK 16th February 2006 17:42

Arado Werke Numbers
 
Hi

Can anyone help with the 'correct' Arado W/nr. blocks for the

Bf 109D-1
Bf 109E-1
Bf 109E-7

Thanks

Regards

Tom Willis

Tomislav Haramincic 17th February 2006 11:50

Re: Arado Werke Numbers
 
Hello Tom,

Here you go:

Arado D-1's
WNr.2066 - 2080
WNr.2201 - 2325

Arado E-1's
WNr.3380 - 3664
WNr.3854 - 3919 (although I have also a few WNrs that are lower then 3854, so possible start of the block is 3845!?)
WNr.4801 - 4975 (mixed block of 49 E-1/B, 18 E-6/N, 46 E-7 and 38 E-8 )
Also this block could be longer, as I have the last reported WNr.4987. Ofcourse the WNrs reported out of the block range could be typing errors and misprints.

Arado E-7's
There is no pure E-7 block produced at Arado. Look the above last E-1 block.


best regards,
Tomislav

Tom1UK 17th February 2006 12:09

Re: Arado Werke Numbers
 
Hi Tomislav

Thanks for the info.

Are you certain of the early D-1 block 2066 to 2080.

Is it possible that the block ended with 2076

I only say this because I have the 2077 at Arado starting with something else.

What source is the info for the block 2066 to 2080?

I have not seen any W/Nrs of D-1s in between this block

Are there any?

Again thanks for info.

Regards

Tom Willis

Kari Lumppio 17th February 2006 14:43

Re: Arado Werke Numbers
 
Hello!

For what it is worth see the attached document. It is one page of "Übersichtsliste der Änderungsanweisungen BF 109" dated 1.7.43 (July -43).

Exactly same Arado-built Bf 109 E-1 Werke Nummer blocks can be found on Blatt 65 (modificaton nr 277 "Ölkühlerabdeckung") and Blatt 67 (modification nr 282 "Austausch des Winkelstückes für Fahrwerk- und Motorabstützung").

Note also the styles of WNr: "W 2655-2666" and 109.xxxx.

I checked before posting and the digiversion of "Blatt 63" is difficult to read. The blocks are shown as:

" E-1 Arado: W 2655 - W 2666 /
109.2667 - 109.2696 /
109.3333 - 109.3664 /
109.3854 - 109.3919 /
109.4804 - 109.4975 / "


Hope this helps some,

Kari


PS I cannot guarantee that the file will stay online for many months. Will remove it if I will need room for other attachments.

PPS It looks like the attacment is unreadable at the size the Forum engine dictates (195 kb).

Tomislav Haramincic 17th February 2006 15:31

Re: Arado Werke Numbers
 
Hello again,

@Tom - the source for the early D-1 (WNr.2066-2080) is the first volume of the excellent Prien saga "Die Jagdfliegerverbände der deutchen Luftwaffe 1934-1945".

@Kari - this list that you posted in the attachment is highly interesting. Is there any more such documents, and where can they be obtained/ordered?
A small tip - try to convert the original file into .jpeg format, it uses much less space and the the resolution will be better.

all the best,
Tomislav

Kari Lumppio 17th February 2006 15:44

Re: Arado Werke Numbers
 
Of the attachment format. The version of Photoshop I have (CS2 ) does not have jpeg as option under "save as". Couldn't believe it at first. Gif was only the second choice.

Of the availability. I have received these as a paper photocopies from a colleague, originals are at Sota-arkisto archive. I think this is the only document of this kind here. I have the document in tiff-format (11 files/pages 11,4 MB total).

Kari

Tom1UK 18th February 2006 11:50

Re: Arado Werke Numbers
 
Hi Kari

Thanks for the attachment and the info.

Much appreciated.

Thanks

Regards

Tom Willis

anderbe 18th February 2006 18:02

Re: Arado Werke Numbers
 
Kari, in CS2 you can use the 'Save for web' - and there on the right hand side you will find the option 'jpeg'. Hope that would make the interesting scan more readable.

Regards Anders

Franek Grabowski 18th February 2006 19:02

Re: Arado Werke Numbers
 
Probably it should be set for 8 bit colour.

Kari Lumppio 21st February 2006 15:16

Re: Arado Werke Numbers
 
Hello!

Blatt 63 is now attached as jpeg. Should be readable. Thanks for the tip Anders!

Kari


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