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Laurent Rizzotti 22nd January 2015 22:27

Losses of Nachtschlachtgruppe 1 in June 1944
 
Hello,

I would be interested by any loss suffered by Nachtschlachtgruppe 1 in June 1944.

Thanks in advance

Laurent

Norbert Schuchbauer 23rd January 2015 15:46

Re: Losses of Nachtschlachtgruppe 1 in June 1944
 
Hi Laurent,
There are no losses recorded in the Summary loss records at the BA.

Regards,
Norbert

Laurent Rizzotti 23rd January 2015 16:11

Re: Losses of Nachtschlachtgruppe 1 in June 1944
 
Thanks Norbert

RT 23rd January 2015 19:20

Re: Losses of Nachtschlachtgruppe 1 in June 1944
 
There are no losses recorded in the Summary loss records at the BA.


No losses for a complete month ??? Hard to believe, I hv at least three

Rémi

Laurent Rizzotti 24th January 2015 16:15

Re: Losses of Nachtschlachtgruppe 1 in June 1944
 
Hello RT, I am interested in the details of these losses. Thanks in advance

RT 25th January 2015 09:28

Re: Losses of Nachtschlachtgruppe 1 in June 1944
 
10 6 44 3 NSGr,1 Idriza-Ost X GO145 969 100
25 6 44 3 NSGr,1 Newel b, A Inf, Besch, GO145 2798 GJ+SJ 100
6 6 44 3 NSGr,1 X Inf, Besch, XXX Ger,

Norbert, these losses dont appear on the Summary ??

Rémi

Norbert Schuchbauer 25th January 2015 16:15

Re: Losses of Nachtschlachtgruppe 1 in June 1944
 
Hi Remi,
the first loss for NSGr. 1 in RL 2 III 858 is dated 04 Jul 44. Nothing earlier.

Norbert

Andreas Brekken 26th January 2015 20:22

Re: Losses of Nachtschlachtgruppe 1 in June 1944
 
Hi, all

The 1. and 2. Staffel of NSGr. 1 was not in operation for most of June 1944. They were at Kauen for Umrüstung according to the Einsatzbereitschaftmeldungen.

For example - on June 10th 1944 these Staffeln had zero aircraft on strength, they got Ju 87s in the following 10 day period, but where waiting for their assigned aircraft model.

The only losses in June/July must have been aircraft from Stab/NSGr 1 (He 46) or 3./NSGr 1 (Go 145 and He 46).

The 1. Staffel did not report any operational crew until July 31st 1944, by mid/late June the 3. Staffel was also refitting and non-operational.

So I am not that surprised of a very limited number of aircraft reported in June/July.

But there is another issue, and that is the fact that if you look at RL 2 III 858, the NSGr 1 report starts with Blatt 2 - thus an entire sheet is missing from the file. Either it has been misplaced and is currently reciding in another folder of the summary loss records, or it has simply been lost altogether.

So we must suspect that about 16 loss dates (8 per page and front and back of Sheet 1 missing) are missing from these records.

Regards,
Andreas B


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