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Tango Echo Dog 5th May 2015 17:05

Stab JG 54
 
Can anyone tell me where Stab JG 54 was at the beginning of April 1943?

Larry deZeng 5th May 2015 20:44

Re: Stab JG 54
 
Tango Echo Delta -

Siverskaya from 5 Sep 41 through Jun 43, according to my notes which do not include anything from Prien's thousand volume Jagdverbände series. But I do have a loss for the Stab on 17 Apr 43 in which a Bf 109 G-4 was shot up and crash landed at Oldenburg with 20% damage. Now, how this aircraft got from the Leningrad Front to Northwest Germany I can't say. There are a dozen possibilities but it does not mean that the entire Stab was there. The answer may be in Prien's series.

L.

sidney 5th May 2015 21:40

Re: Stab JG 54
 
Larry,

I suspect that your Stab/JG 54 Bf 109 G-4 was in fact the Stab III./JG 54 aircraft. The Gruppe was at that time based at Oldenburg and equipped with the Bf 109 G-4 aircraft. Stab/JG 54 at that time, and I believe until the end of hostilities was equipped with the Fw 190 A aircraft.

Regards,
Sinisa

Larry deZeng 6th May 2015 00:42

Re: Stab JG 54
 
Sinisa,

That certainly could be. Maybe Matti S. will see this and post the details on the 17 April 1943 loss report.

L.

ouidjat 6th May 2015 10:06

Re: Stab JG 54
 
Bf109G-4 WNr.14971, 7./JG54, Oldenburg 20% ... Indicated Stab/JG54 per loss.
Flg. Gefr. Rudi Wohlfahrt.
Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #9)-Vol.16; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, X.3, p.285; Menke, SKZ list

Matti Salonen 6th May 2015 12:00

Re: Stab JG 54
 
No personnel damages and therefore no NVM. III/JG 54 had five crashes on that day with Bf 109 G-4. Stab JG 54 never operated Bf 109 G-4. It lost the last Bf 109 G-2 in February 1943 and flew after that with Fw 190 A. So, as Sinisa said, this Bf 109 G-4 was of Stab III/JG 54 and not of Stab JG 54.

Matti

Tango Echo Dog 6th May 2015 17:02

Re: Stab JG 54
 
Gentlemen
Very many thanks for your help.


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