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Tim O. 7th June 2015 12:01

Help please with Written German
 
Hi all

I am continuing research into Hauptmann Willi Gaul. The Flugbuch I have only covers flights to October 1943 but other documents state he was still flying until 1945. I have one document that contains the attached written text and would very much appreciate a more fluent German-reader confirming the written words.

Thank you for the help.

sidney 7th June 2015 12:15

Re: Help please with Written German
 
Tim,

The attached document is basically declaration on oath that Hauptmann Willi Gaul (can't see his name on the document though) is who said he is (i.e., the Staffelkapitän of the 2. Fernaufklärungsgruppe 22). The declaration is given because his Wehrpass (i.e., military service card, I understand) was left in Germany after his Staffel (Gruppe) had been transferred to Denmark. The declaration was dated 30 March 1945.

Regards,
Sinisa

Horst Weber 7th June 2015 12:22

Re: Help please with Written German
 
Good morning Tim !

The text in German :

Er sagt aus, daß er am 13. 11. 14 zu Oberbiel, Krs. Wetzlar/Lahn geboren ist.
Er ist nicht im Besitz des Wehrpaßes, weil dieser sich bei der Seeaufkl.Gr. 126 in Parow b./Stralsund befand und bei der kurzfristigen Verlegung der
2.(F) 22 von Barth/Pommern nach Vaerlöse/Dänemark in Deutschland geblieben ist.

Ich versichere hiermit an Eidestatt, dass er seit 30. 3. 1945 Staffelkapitän der 2./Fernaufklärungsgruppe 22 ist.

Hope this helps.

Have a sunny sunday !

Horst Weber

Tim O. 7th June 2015 13:07

Re: Help please with Written German
 
Thanks Sinisa. I knew the gist of the document but I am trying to squeeze out every bit of evidence I can.

Thank you very much Horst. This is perfect.

Thank you both for your help. Very much appreciated.

Tim O. 7th June 2015 13:17

Re: Help please with Written German
 
Just for interest, here is the whole document. It is printed on very thin paper so I scanned it inside a plastic protector (apologies for the poor quality).

Again, thank you very much for the help.

sidney 7th June 2015 13:18

Re: Help please with Written German
 
You are welcome Tim. Perhaps I overdid it a bit (I skimmed your post too quickly), but my post might still be useful to other members, who cannot read the original in German.

Best Regards,
Sinisa

Tim O. 7th June 2015 14:13

Re: Help please with Written German
 
Hi Sinisa

My German is very poor so it was very helpful to get confirmation I was on the right track!

Thank you.

Seaplanes 7th June 2015 18:49

Re: Help please with Written German
 
This document is a statement that Willi Gaul is the Staffelkapitän of 2.(F)/22.
His Wehrpass (personal military record book) was left behind in Germany due to a hastily transfer of this unit from Barth in Pommern to Vaerloese in Denmark.

2./S.A.Gr.126 was renumbered and renamed 2.(F)/22 on 26. March 1945 and Willi Gaul was appointed Staffelkapitän on 30. March 1945. When the German forces in Denmark capitulated on 5. May 1945, the 2.(F)/22 transferred from Vaerloese to Lister (Lista) in Norway on the same day. This is the reason why the document is dated Oslo (Capital of Norway) 28. July 1945. The following aircraft of 2.(F)/22 were transferred:
Me 410A-1 W.Nr. 410098
Me 410B-2 W.Nr. 410209, 420483
Si 204D-1 W.Nr. 251502, 252059, 252040, 321554, 321904, 321933
He 111H-6 W.Nr. 7760
Willi Gaul was on board one of these aircraft.
The three Messerschmitt's and the lone Heinkel were all destroyed by RAF on Lister airfield. Some of the Siebels were later transferred to Hamburg-Fuhlsbüttel and taken over by RAF.

Tim O. 7th June 2015 19:54

Re: Help please with Written German
 
Thank you very much Seaplanes. I was rather confused by the references to 126 and 22 but it all makes more sense now and the additional information helps my research a lot! Thank you for the help.

gogh 7th June 2015 21:05

Re: Help please with Written German
 
Hi Seaplanes
Si 204D-1 W.Nr. 252059 is in source http://www.luftwaffe.no/ link 1945 W.Nr.252039
Who has it wrong ?

Regards
Peter van Gogh


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