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egbert 20th July 2015 13:26

Ju88 crash landing 7.4.1941 near Goruia and Gârliste, Romania
 
All additional information whatsoever available wanted on:

Ju88A Edelweißgeschwader 51, took off from Wiener Neustadt for a bombing raid to Belgrade in the evening of 6 April 1941.
They reached their target in the morning of the 7th, released bombs and were hit by Flak with left motor destroyed. Gunner Feldwebel Otto Erich Richtsteiger was severely wounded and died after the plane crash landed.
The pilot turned East to reach own lines , entered Romanian airspace and managed to crash-land the airplane on a field near the Romanian villages of Goruia – Gârliste.
Pictures can be found here
http://www.banater-berglanddeutsche....ext/bbd138.pdf
please scroll to page 5

edNorth 20th July 2015 16:43

Re: Ju88 crash landing 7.4.1941 near Goruia and Gârliste, Romania
 
0885113 Ju 88 (A-5) II/KG 51 (Luftwaffe 4)
OPS (F) [mission to Belgrade, Yugoslavia] force landed (80%) at Recita, Romania 07.04.1941 (BS Fw. Otto Erich Richtsteiger killed)

egbert 20th July 2015 17:05

Re: Ju88 crash landing 7.4.1941 near Goruia and Gârliste, Romania
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edNorth (Post 204010)
0885113 Ju 88 (A-5) II/KG 51 (Luftwaffe 4)
OPS (F) [mission to Belgrade, Yugoslavia] force landed (80%) at Recita, Romania 07.04.1941 (BS Fw. Otto Erich Richtsteiger killed)

Thanx for the info. The number at first place is the Werknummer I guess?
The location Recita is the town, called Reschitz on modern maps. The exact crash location as mentioned in the link.

Anything else on this crash available, i.e. the old Lw square grid?

edNorth 20th July 2015 18:01

Re: Ju88 crash landing 7.4.1941 near Goruia and Gârliste, Romania
 
Yes, first is (full) W.Nr., and version is presumed A-5, code not given.
(as most A-1s likely had been upgraded by then)
Info is from Luftwaffe loss documents (GQM losses, extracted from BA-MA Microfiche)
"Luftwaffe Grid Square" is not mentioned in this loss.

NVM (via Matti Salonen) gives "Guruja, 28 km südlich Reschidza"
and plane of 6./KG 51, Bordschütze, FW, Richtsteiger, Erich.

-Ed

egbert 20th July 2015 20:18

Re: Ju88 crash landing 7.4.1941 near Goruia and Gârliste, Romania
 
Many thanx! to you and Matti

Boris Ciglic 20th July 2015 23:13

Re: Ju88 crash landing 7.4.1941 near Goruia and Gârliste, Romania
 
The first small groups of KG 51 aircraft appeared over Belgrade at roughly 14.00 on 7 April. The only attack recorded during the morning was by some Ju 87's of StG 77 at 11.30. Yugoslav Bf 109E's and IK-3's chased a number of attackers and claimed six Ju 88's between 14.30 and 18.00 and I suppose that they were responsible for this Ju 88. The best guess would be that the claimants were either nv IIIk Djordje Stojanović of 102. escadrille (Bf 109E) and kap Ik Todor Gogić, CO pf 51. aviation group (IK-3), which claimed one Ju 88 jointly, or nar Milisav Semiz of 161. escadrille (IK-3). In both cases the Ju 88's were escaping in direction of Rumania after the bombardment of Belgrade. Time of engagement was shortly after 15.00.

Cheers,
Boris

egbert 22nd July 2015 12:46

Re: Ju88 crash landing 7.4.1941 near Goruia and Gârliste, Romania
 
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For those of you who want to update and/or complement missing archive information, here is the exact location of the 7.4.1941 JU88 crash landing. Marked directly at the crossroads -road to Garliste and Resita (Reschitz), Gorula.

Also marked on this map you find a 15.10.1915 crash site of a German LVG C II plane in "Valea Liscovu Mare"

RT 6th July 2016 20:44

Re: Ju88 crash landing 7.4.1941 near Goruia and Gârliste, Romania
 
If Egbert is still interested the Ju52 who crashed on 21.dec.43, belong most probably to 4.TG4 Wn 6161

Rémi

egbert 7th July 2016 10:48

Re: Ju88 crash landing 7.4.1941 near Goruia and Gârliste, Romania
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RT (Post 220391)
If Egbert is still interested the Ju52 who crashed on 21.dec.43, belong most probably to 4.TG4 Wn 6161

Rémi

This unrelated crash has been discussed here:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=42219
thanx for Info!


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