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egbert 20th July 2015 12:37

JU 52 crash near Franzdorf (Romania)
 
All additional known information wanted on the following crash:

Ju52 crash at Certez mountain, near Franzdorf (next bigger town is Reschitz) in Romania. Date of crash is 21.December 1943 (other sources say 25th but this is wrong).
4 died, Kurt Friedrich, Ernst Krause, Waldemar Teichmann and Werner Harten. Only survivor was Rudolf Knispel.

Report here:
http://www.banater-berglanddeutsche....ext/bbd138.pdf
see page 6

For a contemporary sketch please have a look here:
http://www.banater-berglanddeutsche....ext/bbd142.pdf
page 6 ff

Matti Salonen 20th July 2015 15:59

Re: JU 52 crash near Franzdorf (Romania)
 
1943-12-21, 4./TG 4, Ju 52/3m, 6161, Redlin, 140 km nordöstlich Belgrad, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Krause, Kurt, +
Bordfunker Ogfr Knispel, Rudolf, verletzt
Bordmechaniker Ogfr Teichmann, Waldemar, +
Bordschütze Uffz Harten, Werner, +

Matti

egbert 20th July 2015 16:09

Re: JU 52 crash near Franzdorf (Romania)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen (Post 204011)
1943-12-21, 4./TG 4, Ju 52/3m, 6161, Redlin, 140 km nordöstlich Belgrad, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Krause, Kurt, +
Bordfunker Ogfr Knispel, Rudolf, verletzt
Bordmechaniker Ogfr Teichmann, Waldemar, +
Bordschütze Uffz Harten, Werner, +

Matti

Thanx Matti, "unbekannt" I suppose is the location of the crash? If yes, now we know the precise location of the wreck as reported in the link!

Stig Jarlevik 20th July 2015 16:45

Re: JU 52 crash near Franzdorf (Romania)
 
Egbert

Unbekannt is the reason of the crash.
Also it seems like Kurt Friedrich Ernst Krause is one single person.

B Rgds
Stig

egbert 20th July 2015 19:24

Re: JU 52 crash near Franzdorf (Romania)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik (Post 204018)
Egbert

Unbekannt is the reason of the crash.
Also it seems like Kurt Friedrich Ernst Krause is one single person.

B Rgds
Stig

Sorry from my side -yes of course you are right, thank you. Kurt Friedrich Ernst Krause is the full name of ONE of the crew onboard.
All in all 3 dead
1.Kurt Friedrich Ernst Krause,
2.Waldemar Teichmann and
3.Werner Harten.
One survivor Rudolf Knispel

egbert 22nd July 2015 11:59

Re: JU 52 crash near Franzdorf (Romania)
 
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@Matti and those of you who want to update and/or complement missing archive documentation , here is the exact crash location of said JU52 with some parts still up there in the mountains:
JU 52 21.12.1943 just below ridge "Culmea Certez ".
Coordinates: N-45° 12,298’ / EO-21° 58,853’ / 746,4m altitude

Matti Salonen 22nd July 2015 12:51

Re: JU 52 crash near Franzdorf (Romania)
 
Thanks for additional info.

Matti


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