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Joe Potter 28th July 2015 16:59

Oblt Michael Sommer, JG 51, Lost 04.04.1943.
 
Any further info? all I know is that he was lost 4 km south of their base at Orel on 4th April 1943.
Thanks
Joe

Brian Bines 28th July 2015 18:14

Re: Oblt Michael Sommer, JG 51, Lost 04.04.1943.
 
Hi Joe GQM gives - 'H' at Orel-West Fw190A-5 2668? I/JG51 100% crashed and burnt out Oblt Michael Sonner + . The Held book on JG51 also gives surname as Sonner showing him as in Stab I and showing him with 7 victories of which 3 were in the west.

Regards
Brian Bines

Matti Salonen 28th July 2015 18:27

Re: Oblt Michael Sommer, JG 51, Lost 04.04.1943.
 
Correct name is really Sonner and the aircraft 152668. He was from Stab I/JG 51 as stated by Held.

Matti

Chris Goss 28th July 2015 18:38

Re: Oblt Michael Sommer, JG 51, Lost 04.04.1943.
 
In the BofB, Sonner was with 3/JG 51-I have just mentioned him in an article in the current Britain at War

Joe Potter 28th July 2015 23:42

Re: Oblt Michael Sommer, JG 51, Lost 04.04.1943.
 
Thanks very much Gentlemen,
The VDK have him listed as Sommer, with a date of birth 19.08.1915 Munich, their info is from the Deutsche Dienststelle, so I'll ask them to query it with them.
Cheers
Joe

Brian Bines 29th July 2015 00:46

Re: Oblt Michael Sommer, JG 51, Lost 04.04.1943.
 
Birth year for Sonner in the Held book is given as 1915.

Doug Stankey 29th July 2015 07:25

Re: Oblt Michael Sommer, JG 51, Lost 04.04.1943.
 
Here is what we have in our files (http://www.ww2.dk/lwoffz.html) about this guy:

SONNER, Michael. (DOB: 1915). 22.05.40 Lt., 3./JG 51. 23.06.40 Lt., in 3./JG 51. 20.07.40 Lt., 3./JG 51. 24.09.40 Oblt., 3./JG 51. (n.d.) Techn.Offz. in Stab I./JG 51. 08.07.41 Oblt., I./JG 51. 01.06.42 Oblt., appt Staka 3./JG 51 (to 30.10.42). 30.10.42 WIA – Fw 190 A-3 ran out of fuel and belly- landed at or near Vyazma-South in Pl.Qu. 4429. 04.04.43 Oblt., Stab/JG 51 KIA - Fw 190 A-5 crashed and burned 6 km S of Orel-West. Credited with at least 6 victories.

LdZ
DGS

Joe Potter 29th July 2015 07:27

Re: Oblt Michael Sommer, JG 51, Lost 04.04.1943.
 
Thanks Brian, It could just be a typing error, by someone, a long time ago, could someone give me Sonner's EKM, thanks, Joe

Joe Potter 4th August 2015 12:12

Re: Oblt Michael Sommer, JG 51, Lost 04.04.1943.
 
With Matti's help the VDK will be amending their data base shortly, from Sommer to Sonner.
Thanks to All.
Joe


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