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bn785371 18th September 2015 17:17

9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 
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Although a well known subject over many years,always in every publication with the red Höllehund untill recently on this blogspot
http://theprofilepaintshop.blogspot.se/
It "is" black and outlined in red,looking at the photo I included he is probably right.

An old article in SAM of Sept.1979 on this,describes in brief an eyewitness account of a W.S.Walton of Ham Surrey who performed some measuring and colour matching at the time,I wonder how he saw it,anyone has a copy of his notes?

sidney 18th September 2015 20:51

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 
I have the following:

The RAF A.I.1.(g) Report on Crashed Enemy Aircraft, Serial No. 22 of 7 November 1940, Item No.1, Individual Report No. 4/115 gave the account of the circumstances of the 9./JG 26 Staffelkapitän, Oblt. Heinz Ebeling’s Bf 109 E-4, W.Nr. 2740*, "Yellow 1" crash following the collision with the Staffel’s Bf 109 E-1, W.Nr. 3259, "Yellow 11" at Wittersham, Kent on 5 November 1940, along with remarks on the emblem: "…Crest; a black winged demon encircled in red …"

Not the same aircraft, but the emblem style would be.

bn785371 18th September 2015 21:42

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 
This proves that there was at least a black version of it during the Battle.

Thanks for replying.

sidney 18th September 2015 21:49

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 
You are welcome.

I believe that the black version was in fact introduced shortly before the Battle of France, April/May 1940.

udf_00 18th September 2015 22:52

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 
http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/9jg26/Interesting

bn785371 18th September 2015 23:11

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 
There is definitly a black(very dark red?) and a red one,just wonder which one is on Fronhöfer's 109.

Thanks

Larry Hickey 19th September 2015 00:51

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 
René,

The photo you posted to start this thread off shows a black insignia with a thin red outline.

bn785371 20th September 2015 00:05

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 
Larry,thanks for your answer!

sidney 20th September 2015 10:52

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 
I thought that your query was answered already in post No.2 ...

Phas3e 4th January 2016 20:30

Re: 9/JG26 Fronhöfer Wilhelm 31August 1940 Headcorn
 
Bit of a bump but...

Can anyone confirm or bust my theory that this aircraft has a 70/71 upper surrface?

looking at the right wing it does appear to have the splinter pattern, add that to the werk number being masked with a green background.

I'm researching this aircraft for a future modelling attempt and am keen to find a unique scheme.


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