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Richard Mills 21st September 2015 19:34

Question concerning Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’.
 
With regards to Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’, I have a question.

I was wondering as the war progressed into the latter half of 1944 as to whether rather than solely provide the specialist training prior to assigning the aircrew to their respective Aufklarungs Geschwader; did they also undertook operational Aufklarungs missions also?

I have looked high and low and cannot find any mention as to possible operations (or their training output for that matter) so any help whatsoever will be very well received.

Regards Richard.

Larry deZeng 22nd September 2015 00:13

Re: Question concerning Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’.
 
Richard -

Erg.Nahaufkl.Gr. Bromberg

Sep 44: according to a P/W, only two Staffeln remained at this time; replacement pilots were generally there for about a month and flew around 10 hours of practice take-offs, short navigational flights and landings. Rumors were rampant that the Gruppe was to be disbanded. (ADI(K) 626/44)
8 Jan 45: renamed I.(Nah-)/Erg.Aufkl.Geschw. 1. (KTB Gen.d.Aufklärungsflieger in: BA-MA RL 4 II/32).


I.(Nah-)/Erg.Aufklärungsgeschwader 1

Jan 45: now at Kölleda - shortly after formation the Gruppe is known to have assembled an Einsatzstaffel/Erg.Aufkl.Geschw. 1 for use at the front under Luftflotte 6, but little is known about it aside from two losses charged to the Einsatzstaffel, the first a Fi 156 on 24.01.45 and the second a Bf 109 G-8 shot down by ground fire on 05.02.45. No location was given for either loss, but presumably these were over the battle front to the east of the Oder.

L.

Richard Mills 22nd September 2015 21:27

Question concerning Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’.
 
Larry

As always your input is extremely welcome and you really are a great help to casual researchers such as myself.

The reason I asked the question is as a result of researching a Soldbuch belonging to a young Bordschutze who served in the following units (exactly as entered in his Soldbuch):

1./Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’ 17-01-44 – 07-06-44
4./Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’ 08-06-44 – 22-09-44
3./Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’ 23-09-44 – 25-01-45

So with over a year spent in the Gruppe I was wondering whether any operational missions were undertaken as 12 months does seem a long time (to myself at least).

Prior to that he also served in Fernaufklärungs Geschwader 101 ‘Perleberg’. Might you have any info on this unit also?

Thanks again for your help Larry.

Regards Richard.

Larry deZeng 23rd September 2015 01:01

Re: Question concerning Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’.
 
Richard -

Your Bordschutze at Bromberg was undoubtedly cadre, probably an instructor. That is the only thing that would explain his year-long stay there.

I./Fernaufkl.Geschw. 101 at Großenhain and II./Fernaufkl.Geschw. 101 at Perleburg were strictly school units with no operational mission or components. I have all of their losses on microfiche and they were all training crashes.

L.

Richard Mills 23rd September 2015 18:40

Re: Question concerning Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry deZeng (Post 207015)
Richard -

Your Bordschutze at Bromberg was undoubtedly cadre, probably an instructor. That is the only thing that would explain his year-long stay there.

I./Fernaufkl.Geschw. 101 at Großenhain and II./Fernaufkl.Geschw. 101 at Perleburg were strictly school units with no operational mission or components. I have all of their losses on microfiche and they were all training crashes.

L.

Larry

I must admit that I did not consider that he might of been in the intructional cadre, rather I thought the length of assignment could of been down to aircraft unservicability, instructor availabilty or even shortage of aviation fuel as the war entered it's final stages.

There is nothing I can glean from his Soldbuch to indicate he might of been in an instructional post however, it is certainly a possibility as you have alluded to.

Anyway, thank you as always for your input Larry.

Regards Richard.

Peglar 24th September 2015 15:15

Re: Question concerning Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’.
 
2 Attachment(s)
Found an Album from 2.(H) 31

Richard Mills 25th September 2015 17:39

Question concerning Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peglar (Post 207054)
Found an Album from 2.(H) 31

Peglar

Thank you very much indeed for the images, of particular interest is the Staffel Wappen in the first image!

Regards Richard.

Larry deZeng 25th September 2015 20:02

Re: Question concerning Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’.
 
The Wappen is for 3./Erg.Aufkl.Gr. and the animal appears to be a fanciful wild boar with a tusk and claws?? But what does the capital "U" signify? I can't connect the Staffel or Gruppe with any place name beginning with "U".

L.

Peglar 26th September 2015 09:05

Re: Question concerning Ergänzungs Nahaufklärungsgruppe ‘Bromberg’.
 
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Here some more from that Album.

Greetings peglar


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