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bill norman 11th November 2015 12:13

Uffz Helmut Calgeer. 1/4. NJG2, 4/5 Nov. 1944
 
Anyone have any information on this nightfighter pilot - and especially what claims he might have made on the night of 4/5 Nov. 1944

Bill Norman

Chris Goss 11th November 2015 12:25

Re: Uffz Helmut Calgeer. 1/4. NJG2, 4/5 Nov. 1944
 
Calgeer was with 1/NJG 2 and made his first kill that night a bomber between Essen and Wuupertal which Theo Boiten believes was possibly NA546 or 346 Sqn. Cannot see him as a casualty after that date

Matti Salonen 11th November 2015 12:41

Re: Uffz Helmut Calgeer. 1/4. NJG2, 4/5 Nov. 1944
 
I have found the following:
1944-11-11, 3./NJG 2, Ju 88 G-6, 620573, Bei Dortmund, Feindbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Calgeer, Helmut, verletzt
Bordfunker Uffz Lutz, Gerhard
Bordmechaniker Uffz Angersbach, Hans

Matti

Chris Goss 11th November 2015 12:44

Re: Uffz Helmut Calgeer. 1/4. NJG2, 4/5 Nov. 1944
 
Matti is right-I missed that. More haste, less speed! No claims between those 2 dates and note he is now recorded as 3/NJG 2?

bill norman 11th November 2015 17:19

Re: Uffz Helmut Calgeer. 1/4. NJG2, 4/5 Nov. 1944
 
Thanks, Chris; thanks, Matti.
Now a question for Theo Boiten: MZ409/640Sqdn crashed at Vohwinkel, Wuppertal that night. Could it be that MZ409 was Calgeer's victim and not NA546? Bill Norman

Chris Goss 11th November 2015 18:18

Re: Uffz Helmut Calgeer. 1/4. NJG2, 4/5 Nov. 1944
 
There were quite a number lost in the Dusseldorf-Duisburg-Essen-Wuppertal area that night and my guess is Theo found it impossible to link all the claims with any degree of certainty. All I would say is this claim was between Essen and Wuppertal which is quite imprecise (30 or so km)

bill norman 14th November 2015 12:39

Re: Uffz Helmut Calgeer. 1/4. NJG2, 4/5 Nov. 1944
 
Chris, possibly- but there may be some scope for speculation. Does anyone know the times of Calgeer's claimed victories on 4-5 November 1944?

Chris Goss 14th November 2015 12:48

Re: Uffz Helmut Calgeer. 1/4. NJG2, 4/5 Nov. 1944
 
1950 hrs

bill norman 14th November 2015 15:19

Re: Uffz Helmut Calgeer. 1/4. NJG2, 4/5 Nov. 1944
 
Thanks, Chris. Is that from his FB?

Chris Goss 16th November 2015 08:35

Re: Uffz Helmut Calgeer. 1/4. NJG2, 4/5 Nov. 1944
 
Abschuß microfilm I expect


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