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Theo Boiten 23rd December 2015 11:41

Additional info on 21 Nachtjäger?
 
Dear all,

For the Nachtjagd War Diaries 2. Edition, I have compiled a total of 1101 short bios of Nachtjäger, Bordfunker and Bordschütze in the Nachtjagd who achieved one or more aerial victories in WWII. For 21 of these men I have not been able to find details about their fate and/or their first names. Who can help? My email address is:

theoboitenATgmail.com

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-Fw. Paul Bahr 7./NJG3, 2 Abschüsse, survived war?
-Oblt. Vom Berg 3./JG Herrmann, 1 Nachtabschuss, survived war & first name?
-Oblt. Hermann Bertram 3./JG300, 1 Nachtabschuss, survived war?
-Uffz. Werner Dotzauer 3./NJG101, 1 Tagabschuss, survived war?
-Oblt. Heinrich Fröhlich 8./NJG3, 1 Tagabschuss, survived war?
-Hptm. Hitz 7./NJG4, 1 Nachtabschuss, survived war & first name?
-Fw. Heinz Hürdler 3./JG Herrmann und I./JG300, 1 Nachtabschuss, survived war?
-Uffz. Carl-Hans Hürth 12./NJG3, 2 Abschüsse, survived war?
-Uffz. Kinzer 8./NJG2, 1 Abschuss, survived war & first name?
-Uffz. Albert Kreuzer 2./JG2; KIA 11.5.1944; circumstances of death?
-Oblt. Erich Lippert 10./NJG3, KIA 3.12.1944; circumstances of death?
-Lt. Heinz Lönnecker 1./JG300, KIA 1.1.1945; circumstances of death?
-Fw. Loll 2./NJG3, 1 Abschuss, survived war & first name?
-Hptm. Otto Materne 4./NJG4, KIA 6.9.1944 ; circumstances of death?
-Uffz. Michler 1./NJG7; survived war & first name?
-Uffz. Philipp 6./NJG5, 1 Tagabschuss; survived war & first name?
-Uffz. Rupp 10./NJG101, 1 Nachtabschuss; survived war & first name?
-Fw. Schäfer Einsatzstaffel Ostpreussen, 2 Nachtabschüsse; survived war & first name?
-Uffz. Anton Schmid 10./JG300, 1 Abschuss; did he survive war?
-Lt. Von Tettenborn 3./NJG4, 1 Nachabschuss; did he survive war & first name?
-Fw. Erich Teubner I./JG302, 2 Abschüsse; did he survive war?

Very best Christmas greetings, Theo

Frans A 23rd December 2015 14:22

Re: Additional info on 21 Nachtjäger?
 
Theo,
Fw. Paul Bahr KIA 44-08-24/25 11./NJG 6 Bukarest
Hptm. Günther Hitz KIA 44-04-11 Kdr I/SG 77 Chodaczkov (R)
Fw. Heinz Hürtler KIA 43-10-20 1./JG 301 Breslau (P)
Uffz. Carl Hans Hürth was KIA Date not known to me.
Uffz. Kreuzer,Albert KIA 44-05-11 2./JG 2 Vendome (F)
Uffz. Rupp,Ernst survived the war
I have a Max Schmid in 10./JG 300 Was KIA No date
I have a Lt. von Tettenhorst in 3./NJG 4 No first name or date of KIA
Fw. Erich Teubner KIA 44-12-31 2./JG 302 in Germany
Best Christmas greetings
Frans A

Matti Salonen 23rd December 2015 15:58

Re: Additional info on 21 Nachtjäger?
 
1943-11-21, 5./KG 40, He 177 A-3, 535443, F8+BN, Atlantik
Flugzeugführer Hptm vom Berg, Herbert (* 1911-06-13)
Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %. Die gesamte Besatzung vermißt.

1944-03-06, 1./JG 1, Fw 190 A-7, 340003, 11 weiße, Dalerpeel/Dalen, 35 km südöstlich Assen
Flugzeugführer Fw Dotzauer, Werner, +
Absturz nach Luftkampf mit Viermot. Bruch 100 %.

Kreuzer, Albert: Luftkampf mit 80 P-47.

Lippert, Erich was WIA 1944-10-14. Might have died later from his injuries.

1945-01-01, 9./JG 7, Me 262 A-1a, 500021, 7,5 km westsüdwestlich Fassberg, 27 km westsüdwestlich Uelzen
Flugzeugführer Lt Lönnecker, Heinrich, +
Absturz nach Luftkampf mit Jägern. Bruch 95 %.

1944-12-??, 6./Fl.ÜG 1 Süd, Fw 190, 460401(?)
Flugzeugführer Fw Loll, Karl-Heinz, +
Absturz. Bruch ? %.

1944-09-06, Stab JG 76, Fi 156 C-3, 1673, M8+WA, Fl.Pl. Freiburg
Flugzeugführer Hptm Materne, Otto, +
Flugzeugführer Uffz Langhoyer, Willy, verletzt
Unbekannt.. Bruch ? %.

1944-11-26, 4./JG 301, Fw 190 A-9/R11, 202377, Bei Völksen, 19 km südsüdwestlich Hannover
Flugzeugführer Uffz Schmid, Anton (* 1922-12-11), +
Absturz nach Luftkampf. Bruch 98 %.

Matti

edNorth 23rd December 2015 16:56

Re: Additional info on 21 Nachtjäger?
 
MY hat is off for painstaking research. May it be examplary.
Seasons Greetings -Ed

Leo Etgen 23rd December 2015 17:00

Additional info on 21 Nachtjäger?
 
Hi guys

I have seen information that states that Unteroffizier Albert Kreuzer of 2./JG 2 was killed in Fw 190 A-8 (W.Nr. 170 322) in aerial combat with USAAF P-47 fighters near Vendome on 11 May 1944. Is this correct? If he was engaged by 80 P-47 fighters then it is no wonder he did not make it out alive!

Horrido!

Leo

Theo Boiten 23rd December 2015 22:11

Re: Additional info on 21 Nachtjäger?
 
Hi Frans, Matti and Leo,

Many thanks indeed for your fine contributions, much appreciated! This clears quite a few of the questions that I had. The only one I'm not quite sure of is whether 'my' Hptm. Hitz of 7./NJG4 is Hptm. Günter Hitz of Stab I./SG 77. Hptm. Hitz of 7./NJG4 achieved one sole victory on 22-23.3.44, here's the entry in the manuscript of the NJWD 2nd ed (his name was pretty hard to decipher on the original microfilm records:

Hptm. Hitz: 1 7./NJG4 4-mot Münster-Osnabrück: 6.500 m. 21.37 97 Sqn Lancaster ND351. Note: victory Hptm. Hitz confirmed on 19.8.1944

Cheers, Theo

Matti Salonen 24th December 2015 08:49

Re: Additional info on 21 Nachtjäger?
 
Very probably not the same Hitz.
1942-11-07, 2./St.G 77, Ju 87 D-1, 2364, Nordwestlich Nogir, nordnordwestlich Ordzonikidze
Flugzeugführer Olt Hitz, Günter, verletzt
Bordfunker Fw Wöllner, Fritz, verletzt
Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
1944-04-11, 1./SG 77, Ju 87 D-5, 141077, S2+LH, 3 km südwestlich Chodazkow
Flugzeugführer Hptm Hitz, Günter, vermißt
Bordfunker Fw Eschenbacher, Kurt, vermißt
Absturz infolge Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
EKM of Hitz was assigned in March 1940 by 1./St.G 77.
It would have been strange, if this Hptm Hitz was in the West in 7./NJG 4 in March 1944.

Matti

Theo Boiten 24th December 2015 14:11

Re: Additional info on 21 Nachtjäger?
 
Hi Matti,

Thanks for that -it's exactly my reasoning too re. Hptm. Hitz, it would have been rather strange for Günter Hitz to pop up in the west for a short stint as a Nachtjäger in early 44.

Cheers, Theo


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