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Andy Mitchell 8th January 2016 00:09

Unallocated NAGr NCOs
 
Please see the list of NAGr NCOs below

Arndt, Paul F/Bo Obfw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./NAGr. X

Bosau, Otto F Obfw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./NAGr. X

Bouvain, Herbert F/Bo FhjObfw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./NAGr. X

Dietrich, Hans Bs Fw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./NAGr. X

Fietkau, Hans F/Bo Obfw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./NAGr. X

Guhlke, Ernst F/Bo Obfw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./NAGr. X

Isert, Wilhelm Bs Obfw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./AGr. x (x./NAGr. X?)

Kern, Emil F Obfw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./AGr. x (x./NAGr. X?)

Lenkowski, Karl Bs Uffz (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./NAGr. X

Linke, Paul F/Bo Obfw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./NAGr. X

Mader, Anton-Josef F/Bo Fw (26/3/44); (Fw 26/6/43-26/3/44) DKiG 16/8/43, RK 26/3/44 KIA 2/2/45 1./NAGr. 4, x./NAGr. 11

Py, Wilhelm F/Bo Fw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./NAGr. X

Voglhuber, Max Bs Fw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./NAGr. X

Ziegler, Wilhelm F/Bo Fw (1/1/45?) DKiG 1/1/45? x./NAGr. X


These names were drawn from the DKiG listing available from http://www.wiki.luftwaffedata.co.uk/...mages/DKiG.zip

I would be grateful if anyone can provide more information on any of the above personnel such as the actual NAGr that they served with.

Many thanks..

Boris Ciglic 8th January 2016 11:25

Re: Unallocated NAGr NCOs
 
Obfw. Fietkau was in 2./NAGr.12 in early January 1944.

Cheers,
Boris

Andy Mitchell 8th January 2016 13:51

Re: Unallocated NAGr NCOs
 
Boris,

many thanks

Frans A 8th January 2016 22:22

Re: Unallocated NAGr NCOs
 
Andy,
Bouvain,Herbert 1.NAGr 13 KIA 44-07-30 Gacé (F)

Frans A

Andy Mitchell 8th January 2016 22:23

Re: Unallocated NAGr NCOs
 
Frans - many thanks

Kapper 9th January 2016 04:32

Re: Unallocated NAGr NCOs
 
Andy,

Otto Bosau, - some of his documents, photo’s and Ehrenpokal were on sale on the internet a while back. The actual award date for his DKG was 20.08.1944. He is shown as a member of 6.(H)/32(Pz) which became 3./NAGr 4 on 01.03.1943. He was awarded the Ehrenpokal on 06.10.1942.

Emil Kern’s documents were also on sale on the internet. The actual award date for the DKG is 10.09.1944. He’s shown as being a member of 4.(H)/10 which became 1./NAGr 2 on 01.03.1943. He has the full set of awards up to DKG (EKII, EKI, FFSiB, FFSiS, FFSiG, EP, DKG and Wound badge).

Anton-Josef Mader – this on can be confusing, there is a Ofw Josef Mader (KIA 28.08.44) and a Fw Anton- Josef Mader (died 02.02.1945) as well as the fighter Ace Obstlt Anton Mader (survived). There seems to be some mixing of details between these, especially the first two. From what I can make out Josef was 1./NAGr 4 (01.03.1943 this was formed from 3(H)/13) and NAGr 11, while Anton Josef was 5(H)./11 which became 1./NAGr 8 on 01.02.44. This is not definitive but it’s something to be aware of.

Wilhelm Py is in the Kracker files – WIA 05.12.43 Bf109G (15893) White 2 at Slobin, 1./NAGr 4

Max Voglhuber was WIA 20.09.1942 by enemy fighters near Kutloban as an Ogefr 2.(H)/41 (later disbanded in Jan 43) – his pilot (name unknown) was unhurt. He was awarded Ehrenpokal 17.04.44.

Regards,

Craig…

Andy Mitchell 9th January 2016 11:17

Re: Unallocated NAGr NCOs
 
Craig,

Many thanks for all of the additional info.

I had forgotten about the Kracker files - I will need to look at them as well.


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