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ouidjat 30th March 2016 12:18

eBay an interesting Bf109
 
Hi gents,

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeug...sAAOSwAvJW-mUf
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeug...3D231894841063
and already sold ...
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeug...p2047675.l2557

So; Hugo Frey machine. But what about black undersides? What about emblem? And, if possible, Nickname?

Any comment is welcome, Thank you in advance.

Regards, Franck.

Marc-André Haldimann 30th March 2016 14:33

Re: eBay an interesting Bf109
 
Isn't this machine one shared between III./JG 11 and JG 301 for Zahme Sau night hunting?

Cheers
Marc

edwest2 30th March 2016 18:41

Re: eBay an interesting Bf109
 
My comment is the white or yellow tail appears to be a replacement since it bears no camouflage.





Ed

Nick Beale 30th March 2016 19:05

Re: eBay an interesting Bf109
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 216419)
My comment is the white or yellow tail appears to be a replacement since it bears no camouflage.

Ed

It's white and designates a Kommodore or Kommandeur, a marking introduced for Reich defence units in February 1944. See: http://www.ghostbombers.com/markings/bands1.html

edwest2 30th March 2016 19:14

Re: eBay an interesting Bf109
 
Thank you, Nick, for the additional information.







Best,
Ed

Marc-André Haldimann 30th March 2016 19:47

Re: eBay an interesting Bf109
 
Hi there Gang,

Photographic evidence does show white tailed Staffelkapitän and Gruppenkommandeur machines since Summer 1943 as evidenced here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7640119878915/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7640119878915/

Cheers
Marc

Nick Beale 30th March 2016 20:21

Re: eBay an interesting Bf109
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 216426)
Hi there Gang,

Photographic evidence does show white tailed Staffelkapitän and Gruppenkommandeur machines since Summer 1943 as evidenced here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7640119878915/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7640119878915/

Cheers
Marc

Thanks. I suspect that many of the orders issued about markings were just to standardise something that was already being done.

Marc-André Haldimann 30th March 2016 20:48

Re: eBay an interesting Bf109
 
You're welcome Nick !

After checking again, one of the "late" white tails can be seen here, a 7./JG 27 machine, photographed on 2 December 1943.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7640109612456/

Cheers
Marc

ouidjat 31st March 2016 12:27

Re: eBay an interesting Bf109
 
Hi Gents,

All details concerning white tails can be read in JFV Teil 10.II. page 39 ...
Any news concerning the emblem ? :)
Thanks.


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