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Andrey Kuznetsov 14th June 2016 21:51

Ju88 0024 (K9+KH) Aufkl.Gr. Ob.d.L 1.9.41
 
Whether the additional data to the following loss exist?

Ju88 WNr.0024 (K9+KH) Aufkl.Gr. Ob.d.L 1.9.41 Olt. Ruhnke J., Bo.; Fw. Taplick G., F.; Fw. Kunkel K., Bm.; Ogef. Schaleck F.

Best regards,
Andrey

edNorth 15th June 2016 01:36

Re: Ju88 0024 (K9+KH) Aufkl.Gr. Ob.d.L 1.9.41
 
Yes, but what happened, is not known to me? May have fallen victim of fighter action.

This was K9+QH (F)/Aufkl.Gr.Ob.d.L. (Independent Units, East)
OPS (F) missing (100%) unk location (Sewastopol) 01.09.1941 (F Fw. Gerhard Taplick, B Oblt. Johannes Ruhnke, BM Fw. Karl Kunkel and BF Obgefr. Fritz Schalok missing)

-Ed

Snautzer 15th June 2016 13:40

Re: Ju88 0024 (K9+KH) Aufkl.Gr. Ob.d.L 1.9.41
 
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...ghlight=Ruhnke

Do 215B, 0024, Ruhnke, Oblt. Johannes (B)/Taplick, Fw. Gerhard (F(, , 1.(F), Aufkl.Gr.Ob.d.L., weiße Q, K9+QH, , , 01-Sep-41, MIA with crew, cause unknown., Dup WNr.! Loss report calls this a 'Ju 88B'., Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #4)-Vol.6, , (Sewastopol), 100%, F, ,

edNorth 15th June 2016 16:29

Re: Ju88 0024 (K9+KH) Aufkl.Gr. Ob.d.L 1.9.41
 
Well, I have no idea how Jim P finds out this be Do 215.
Maybe he can explain. I have this sources (below) as my argument.

Note 1: Do 215 B 0024 L2+ES already was destroyed.

Note 2: Code of VfH (Versuchstelle für Höhenfluge, Oranienburg) Kommando Rowehl 4.(F)/Ob.d.L. - not of "1.(F)/"Aufkl.Gr.Ob.d.L (loss does not add 1.(F)/ as unit involved)

Note 3: GQM indentifies this clearly as Ju 88 B oo24 K9+QH,
NVM (via Matti Salonen) has this F Gerhard Taplick, B Johannes Ruhnke, BF Fritz Pchalek and BM Karl Kunkel (slightly different)

Note 4: TNA HW 19/96 SALU 205 Page 6 (party based on CX/MSS (Ultra) decoded mesages), indentifies plane code K9+QH doing recce flying in (east) with Luftlotte 4 (Fliegerkorps IV) on 27.08.41, report of date 01.01.41-02.09.41 has no mention.

Andrey Kuznetsov 15th June 2016 22:06

Re: Ju88 0024 (K9+KH) Aufkl.Gr. Ob.d.L 1.9.41
 
Thank you, gentlemen!

A complicated case.

Can't find any Soviet claim for that case, so technical failure most probably

Best regards,
Andrey

Jim P. 16th June 2016 01:18

Re: Ju88 0024 (K9+KH) Aufkl.Gr. Ob.d.L 1.9.41
 
Oh gawd, that error was fixed years ago. That data was initially entered into our db 20 or more years ago. At the time I don't think George or I had any idea that Ju 88B's ever flew missions against the enemy.

edNorth 16th June 2016 03:18

Re: Ju88 0024 (K9+KH) Aufkl.Gr. Ob.d.L 1.9.41
 
Ok, no prob, 2008 there is not much out on "Ju 88 B V-Serie", just bit and pieces here and there, no books I know of have added any.


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