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Orwell1984 18th June 2016 21:53

Heinkel loss on June 12/13 1941 North Atlantic
 
Hopefully one of the experts on here can help with this puzzle.

Copied from my reply on AHF forum to this thread http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...22849#p2022849 :
Quote:

I think this may be the incident you're referring to:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=ca
The Faroese fishing boats were also exposed to the danger from the air. In order to defend themselves against air attack, all the boats, each with two light machine guns and enough ammunition were fitted from 21 April 1941. This offer was voluntary, they could be answered in any British port and was then reviewed by the headquarters on Skansin regularly for functionality after an introduction of at least two crew members. These weapons had some deterrent effect, if you compare what is worth a German war plane compared to a Faroese sloop. In one case, the sloops - skipper Georg Joensen from Eiði aboard the Thor from Sørvágur on June 12, 1941 managed a shot. He took 15 nautical miles north of Rattray Head ( a former Royal Navy airbase near Aberdeen ) is a German Heinkel from the sky and got it in 1942 by King George VI. Order of the British MBE ( Member of the Order of the British Empire ) awarded.
Note type of Heinkel not mentioned


Info on the fishing boat Thor here but you'll need to translate it:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=ca

The June 12 1941 incident is detailed at the bottom of the page but google translate has failed to render a legible result. What I was able to pick out was the type was referred to as a Heinkel 111 H-5 it seems.

. Trying to see if I can find any more info on Georg Joensen MBE

Looking at losses for KG 26 for the time (a likely unit) here: http://www.asisbiz.com/Luftwaffe/luftlo ... -KG26.html
this entry seemed interesting.
13-06-1941 Heinkel He 111 H-5 Kampfstaffel 1./I./KG 26 Sola 3N WNr. 0003 741 1H+CH Unknown unk 100% Oblt. Werner Rohländer (+) 4-0-0-0 North Sea Cra/s probably off Peterhead
One day out, also a Heinkel He 111 H-5 lost flying from Sola over the North Sea. A possiblity?
I think looking at Heinkel 111s makes more sense than looking at Heinkel 115s. Any more info on the KG26 loss that may fit the original claim? Any other loss candidates?

Any and all input appreciated.

edNorth 19th June 2016 00:20

Re: Heinkel loss on June 12/13 1941 North Atlantic
 
Your translation and understanding is correct. Faroese text is fairly easy (for me):
This was likely (not) indentifed as He 111 by the ships crew crew (just German, and then He 111 H-5 by someone else, in later times, and referring to German docs) - Ship (fishing scooner) had left Aberdeen shortly before and were 15 NM ("15 fjórðungar" = 15 Nautical Miles x 1.852 metres) and skipper of Thor shot off just 22 rounds of M/G fire (likely .303 Cal Browning in my opinion) at the plane as it passed over, just 15 meters above him. (You can hardly miss a He 111 at that range, and - in my opinion - need shoot out a control cable or trim cable, causuing it to nose dive into the sea) (Pilot had armour back plate in the H-5). I have had quick look in my records, but, as this happened on North Sea side of Britain (Scotland) and does not feature in my (list of) shipping attacks, off Iceland - Faroes area.


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