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Andrey Kuznetsov 3rd July 2016 14:32

Nachtflug Lehrgang 3 as front unit
 
Nachtflug Lehrgang 3 was used as front unit in North Caucasus in the beginning of 1943. What planes they used?
Also any details of that unusual activity are interesting.

Best regards,
Andrey

RT 3rd July 2016 18:10

Re: Nachtflug Lehrgang 3 as front unit
 
Usually these units 2+3+4 flew Ju86, seems they were activated only for that period early 1943

Rémi

Andrey Kuznetsov 3rd July 2016 19:32

Re: Nachtflug Lehrgang 3 as front unit
 
Rémi, thank you a lot!

Norbert Schuchbauer 4th July 2016 16:30

Re: Nachtflug Lehrgang 3 as front unit
 
The strength on 31.-Jan-1943 was as follows:
Luftflotte 1: 7 Ju 86
Luftflotte 4: 5 Ju 86
LwKdoDon: 6 He 111
LwKdoOst: 6 Ju 86

Nachtfluglehrgang 3 was at Bagerowo Jan-43 to Feb-43 and then Kauen between Feb-43 to 05.-Sep-1943. Then it became 3./EinsGr.BFS 2

Regards,
Norbert

Andrey Kuznetsov 4th July 2016 17:03

Re: Nachtflug Lehrgang 3 as front unit
 
Thank you very much, Norbert!

Valuable info.
All these planes were from Nachtfluglehrgang 3 or from other Nachtfluglehrgangen too?
Did they used as day bombers too or at night only?

Whether Nachtfluglehrgang 3 had losses or damages during Jan.-Feb.43?

Best regards,
Andrey

Norbert Schuchbauer 4th July 2016 17:45

Re: Nachtflug Lehrgang 3 as front unit
 
They are not all from Nachfluglehrgang 3. I do not know under which higher command Nachtfluglehrgang 3 was subordinated. Nachtfluglehrgang 1 was under Lw.Kdo.Don. I have no losses for Nachtfluglehrgang 3.

Regards,
Norbert

Andrey Kuznetsov 4th July 2016 18:04

Re: Nachtflug Lehrgang 3 as front unit
 
Thank you, Norbert!

According to Hayward (Stopped at Stalingrad), Nachtfluglehrgang 3 was under Lw-Gr. Kuban, so Lfl.4

Best regards,
Andrey

Andrey Kuznetsov 4th July 2016 22:18

Re: Nachtflug Lehrgang 3 as front unit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norbert Schuchbauer (Post 220322)
I have no losses for Nachtfluglehrgang 3.

Whether the other Nachtfluglehrgang units had the losses or damages during their combat missions?

Best regards,
Andrey

Merlin 5th July 2016 09:23

Re: Nachtflug Lehrgang 3 as front unit
 
Andrey,

the Nachtfluglehrgänge were blind flying training courses for bomber crews operating at the Eastern front and not combat units. These refresher training became necessary because more and more night operations were required even over Russia.

The switch to an operational unit happened with the formation of Einsatzgruppe BFS 2 in July 1943 and later Einsatzgruppe 2.Fliegerdivision in November 1943.

Andrey Kuznetsov 5th July 2016 10:42

Re: Nachtflug Lehrgang 3 as front unit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 220341)
the Nachtfluglehrgänge were blind flying training courses for bomber crews operating at the Eastern front and not combat units.

Yes, of course. But in the beginning of 1943 they were used as combat units (Nachtfluglehrgabg 3 at least).

Best regards,
Andrey


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