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Richard Mills 12th July 2016 20:47

Elusive Kampfgeschwader 2 Signature
 
I am having no luck in trying to put a name to the attached signature concerning an Urlaub entry in a Kampfgeschwader 2 Soldbuch.

Dated 02-June-1941, I 'think' the signature reads as Hauptmann Reiss, although I cannot be 100% on that.

In Doug and Larry's excellent Luftwaffe Officers database, there is a Hans Reiss listed as being in Kampfgeschwader 2 in this timeframe however, he is listed as not being of Hauptmann rank until 01-October-1942 (incidently, he has signed the Soldbuch also, and is a different signature) which would rule him out for this signature.

So, any ideas on this really will be very gratefully received.

Regards Richard.

Norbert Schuchbauer 12th July 2016 23:58

Re: Elusive Kampfgeschwader 2 Signature
 
It reads Reiß to me.

Regards,
Norbert

Richard Mills 13th July 2016 19:04

Elusive Kampfgeschwader 2 Signature
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norbert Schuchbauer (Post 220661)
It reads Reiß to me. Regards, Norbert

Norbert

Thank you for your reply, I totally agree in that it does look like Reiß.

Going by Doug and Larry's Luftwaffe Officers database, the best fit I can see for the signature is possibly for:

REISS, Georg. 01.07.39 Oblt., temporary duty from RLM pool to FFS C Neuruppin. 15.11.39 trf to Erg.Kampfgruppe 2 Schönfeld-Crössinsee. 16.10.40 Oblt., 9./KG 77 KIA - Ju 88 A-1 (3Z+DT) crashed at Amiens.

That said there is of course no mention of a promotion to Hauptmann, which is not helping!

Anyway, I am hoping someone might be able to provide some more info either way into who this signatory might be.

Regards Richard.

gwdsoldat 13th July 2016 21:39

Re: Elusive Kampfgeschwader 2 Signature
 
Hello Richard and Norbert,
sorry, not the line.
What means the rank/ in charge.
My read- Hptm. u. Offiz. z.b.(V?)
Best regards
Manfred

RolandF 14th July 2016 12:17

Re: Elusive Kampfgeschwader 2 Signature
 
Sütterlin "V" - so z.b.V. (zur besonderen Verwendung) is correct

Regards
RolandF

Norbert Schuchbauer 14th July 2016 16:50

Re: Elusive Kampfgeschwader 2 Signature
 
Since this deals with the approval of "Genesungsurlaub" (vacation for recovery from wounds) it may not be an aviator who approved this.

Regards,
Norbert

Richard Mills 16th July 2016 10:51

Elusive Kampfgeschwader 2 Signature
 
Thank you to all who have added input into trying to identify this signature.

As I see it, with the stamp bearing the Feldpost Nr. 02546 ((Mobilmachung-1.1.1940) 1. Kampf-Geschwader 2), shows him as having returned to his unit from the Lazarett to be issued Genesungsurlaub.

Consequently, it is a Hauptmann Reiß from Kampfgeschwader 2, holding a tempory positiion within the unit whom I believe singed the entry (unless I have something majorly wrong!).

I will keep looking and hopefully something will surface.

Thanks again. Regards Richard.

gwdsoldat 16th July 2016 20:47

Re: Elusive Kampfgeschwader 2 Signature
 
Hello all,
the "Genesungsurlaub" dated from 3.6.1941 until "aufAbruf nach ?Heiden?"
With other words this airman was not so ill?
Richard may some more info from your airman will welcome. Thank you.
Sorry, hope any answer.
Best regards
Manfred

Tim O. 15th September 2017 16:17

Re: Elusive Kampfgeschwader 2 Signature
 
Hi Richard

I stumbled across this thread while also looking for Reiss. I have recently acquired documents to a man from KG 2, which includes the attached, also signed (I think) by 'your' Reiss in March 1941 and showing him as Oberleutnant und Offizier z.b.V.

I also have a condolence letter dated February 1943 signed by Hans Reiss but I think the signature is different (first and last pages attached to show headed paper and signature). This Reiss was the Staffelkapitän of 3./KG 2 and an Oberleutnant from 17.05.42 to 11.06.42, according to Ulf Balke in his two-part work on KG 2.

I am still in the early days of researching, so happy to compare notes off line if that suits you.

Chris Goss 15th September 2017 16:38

Re: Elusive Kampfgeschwader 2 Signature
 
According to an old contact from 1./KG 2 who was shot down in March 1943, Hans Reiss took over 3 Staffel from Rolf Hausner who had moved to 7 Staffel?


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