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KrisJG3 26th July 2016 00:40

Nice view of Luftwaffe wracks
 
Is it possible say something more about following wracks ?
Film Nr.3 : Footage // Deutsche Armee im Zweiten
Ju52 --- werk 3831
http://frontend.history-vision.de/se...html5=0&pool=0

Sergio Luis dos Santos 26th July 2016 04:32

Re: Nice view of Luftwaffe wracks
 
Nice... we can see also an He 219, a Ju 87D, several Fw 190 and at last one Me 109. Edit... It may be a Ju 87G.

he219research 26th July 2016 13:54

Re: Nice view of Luftwaffe wracks
 
Amazing video, thanks a lot for the link!

The He 219 would seem to be the rather mysterious machine from NJGr.10, sporting "Liegeplatz-Tarnung" in addition to the standard RLM75/76 Nachtjäger camouflage.
The "inverted" colours on the spinners (white (or RLM76) with black/dark spirals) are also noteworthy.

Marc-André Haldimann 26th July 2016 17:09

Re: Nice view of Luftwaffe wracks
 
As for the Fw 190's and the Bf 109, they have the "flavor" of the burnt out Altenburg Forst wrecks. Anyone can confirm ?

Cheers
Marc

RolandF 26th July 2016 17:37

Re: Nice view of Luftwaffe wracks
 
The Ju 52/3m seems to be cannibalized for shingles for roof-repair

RT 26th July 2016 18:08

Re: Nice view of Luftwaffe wracks
 
Ju52 3138/3136 .... strange always thought there was a gap between 3128 to 3139
???

Rémi

Von Alles 26th July 2016 18:34

Re: Nice view of Luftwaffe wracks
 
2 Attachment(s)
I add two screen captures : a Fw 190D and a Fw 190A.
Comments about their colors would be wellcome !!

edwest2 26th July 2016 21:21

Re: Nice view of Luftwaffe wracks
 
They remind me of similar photos published in The Focke-Wulf Fw 190 Dora, Volume Two, by Jerry Crandall. A number of color combinations are mentioned but I shy away from making comparisons, bowing to his expertise. The photos in the book are not in color, but there are some color profiles of various aircraft found at various locations.




Ed

Jasate 26th July 2016 21:30

Re: Nice view of Luftwaffe wracks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Alles (Post 221212)
I add two screen captures : a Fw 190D and a Fw 190A.
Comments about their colors would be wellcome !!

This Dora is interesting.

Some notes for discussion:
- Focke-Wulf -built (21xxxx)
- 81 Green ("83", or maybe brown)?/82 Green/Light Green(Green-blue) fuselage and wings (with additional 82 mist over fuselage sides? Tail replaced at some point?)
- Patch of 81 Brown mottle showing from behind the tree
- What is very curious is that the lighter shade (82) is dominating the fuselage, with other Doras it is commonly seen the other way around.
- The exhaust residue seems considerable, but there are no markings? Can this be linked to the area somehow?
- Lack of mottling around the tail plug and domination of lighter shade over fuselage reminds me (Although the fuselage colour distribution can't be confirmed) of "White 13 '210982'" in Crandall's book

Stephen M. Fochuk 26th July 2016 22:43

Re: Nice view of Luftwaffe wracks
 
I do not really see any residue of torching the planes. More like they were blown up.


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