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Sunderland loss 13/11/43 423 Squadron

Could anyone please give me anymore details about the loss of this aircraft and the names of it's crew? Where did it start its operation from and was the cause of its loss ever determined?

Re: Sunderland loss 13/11/43 423 Squadron

I'm assuming this is the loss you are looking for:
http://www.castlearchdale.net/id19.html

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THE CREW OF SUNDERLAND DD423 423.SQUADRON CASTLE ARCHDALE, CRASHED AT SEA WITH ENGINE FAILURE.13TH NOVEMBER 1943 http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/images/smilies/poppy.gif

CREW MEMBERS KILLED

RANK NAME SERVICE

Flt.Lt 108011, A.F.Brazenor, Pilot RAF
P/O C1845, R.H.Wilson, Pilot RCAF
F/Sgt 1312981, S.G.Brockway, Pilot RAF
F/O J11651, H.B.Pharis, Navigator RAF
F/Sgt 538450, R.J.Money, Flight Engineer RAF
Sgt 942837, H.W.Fel, Flight Engineer RAF
Sgt 1254927, H.E.E.Attwood, FME/Air gunner RAF
Sgt 1358982, M.F.Flynn, Wireless Operator/ Airgunner RAF
Sgt 573940, D.Bigmore, Wireless Operator/Air Gunner RAF
Sgt 932389, L.Morgan, Wireless Operator/ Airgunner RAF
Sgt. 1335635, R.W.Stiff, Air Gunner RAF

Aircraft number above is incorrect [website error] and is actually DD863
https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19431113-1

Re: Sunderland loss 13/11/43 423 Squadron

From ORB... Air 27/ 1832
Sunderland J took off at 09.46 hrs. anti submarine escort.
Sent message at 11.50 engine trouble followed by SOS four minutes later

Liberator FK214 T 86 Squadron 3 hour search for missing Sunderland and two days later the same aircraft searched Donegal Bay area.
An Anson from 275 Sqn Eglinton also searched the Donegal Bay area
HTH
Tony K

Re: Sunderland loss 13/11/43 423 Squadron

Also found this mention here:
http://www.shearwateraviationmuseum....23chapter2.htm

Quote:

Such happy endings were not to be in November. Aircraft unserviceabilities born of progressive equipment deterioration were occurring more frequently, seeing four of twelve squadron aircraft undergoing major overhauls. 31 Out of those aircraft flying, one-half either crashed or were damaged by the end of the month.
The first accident occurred on Remembrance Day. F/L M.D. Lee and crew departed Lough Erne in 3+D (DP181) in mid-afternoon, only to be recalled by weather. The aircraft crashed on landing, killing five and wounding the remaining six crew members.
Two days later, F/L A.F. Brazenor and crew took off in 3+J (DD863) for an anti-submarine patrol. Two hours into the mission, the aircraft reported it was returning due to engine trouble. Soon afterwards, it sent an S.O.S., giving its position as fifteen miles from the coast. The aircraft disappeared. Five days later, wreckage identified as parts of a Sunderland was washed ashore in the vicinity of the last report. All twelve men were lost.

Re: Sunderland loss 13/11/43 423 Squadron

Thank you so much Gents. Amazingly quick answers. Very much appreciated. K