Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/index.php)
-   Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   24 April 1944 (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=46456)

CENTURION 31st October 2016 17:48

24 April 1944
 
Hello gentlemen,

on April 24, 1944 the JG.106 lost a Bf.109 (destroyed) while three were damaged (with 1 pilot killed and 1 wounded) in combat against 8th Air Force while VbdFhr Schule lost 4 Bf.109s (with 3 pilots killed and 1 wounded).
Can anybody help with the details of these human and material losses?
Many thanks in advance.
Best regards.

Marco

GrafWolf 31st October 2016 18:10

Re: 24 April 1944
 
Hello Marco!

From the loss list of JG 106:

24.04.1944 2./JG 106 Bf 109 G-2, W.-Nr.10820, Lt. Groo,Karl, wounded
Lachen-Speyerdorf
24.04.1944 2./JG 106 Bf 109 G-2, W.-Nr.14712, Fw. Halmai,Norbert, KIA
Winnsweiler /Kaiserslautern


Hope this helps!

Herzliche Grüsse aus Oberschwaben,

Wolfgang

sidney 31st October 2016 20:39

Re: 24 April 1944
 
There was one Lt. Karl Broo with 2./JG 106 around that period - http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/archiv...p?t-39898.html , sounds too similar to Lt. Karl Groo to be a coincidence, or is it?

GrafWolf 1st November 2016 08:26

Re: 24 April 1944
 
Good morning, Sidney!

You are right! After checking deZeng/Stankey right name must be
Karl Broo. I´ll correct this in loss list JG 106.

Thank you!

Herzliche Grüsse aus Oberschwaben,

Wolfgang

sidney 1st November 2016 11:04

Re: 24 April 1944
 
Good morning, Wolfgang.

Lt. Karl Broo was one of the late WW2 period Luftwaffe aces, hence I was familiar with his name to some extent.

Thank you for the loss-list details provided. I am glad that I was of some assistance in the matter.

Best Regards,
Sinisa

RT 1st November 2016 11:30

Re: 24 April 1944
 
These 2 complete the board .

22 24 4 44 LF Reich JG 106 F Herzogenaurach FP A F BF109G-6 160631 10
13 24 4 44 LF Reich LKS 4 F Fürstenfenfelbruck A Fbordw, JU-W34hau 1480 100 2

Eberhardt hans uffz bs t
Roth erwin oblt f t

Plus lot of machines damaged on the ground

Rémi

RT 1st November 2016 11:35

Re: 24 April 1944
 
By the way, what about, the same day that one ...

24 4 44 II FAG 101 PQ 7651 Wasserberührung JU88 100 09h50 Geborgen n, 8 minuten d, Boot
Hermann georg ofw v,,
Lieret rudi ge t
???

Rémi

CENTURION 2nd November 2016 01:12

Re: 24 April 1944
 
Wolfgang, Sinisa, Rémi,
Thank you very much for your input.
Do you know the percentual damege of the Bf.109 G-2, W.-Nr.10820 of Lt. Karl Broo?
It remains a mystery the loss of 4 Bf.109s of "Verbandsführerschule für Jagdfliegerausbildung" (a unit totaly unknown to me) based on Fels am Wagram which, according to Caldwell, occurred on this day.
Thanks. Best regards.

Marco

RT 2nd November 2016 10:50

Re: 24 April 1944
 
The plane of Broo was only superficialy damaged,

Concerning Caldwell sayings, thought he is a respected author, so big losses for one unit in one day hv could hv not be missed by others "searchers"

To say that very few losses are registred for that unit

Rémi

Merlin 2nd November 2016 13:45

Re: 24 April 1944
 
The "Verbandsführerlehrgang des GdJ" was based at Fels am Wagram together with I./JG 27 in spring 1944. The latter unit lost four aircraft that day against American fighters.


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:10.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net