II./JG 53 – March 4, 1944
 

Hello/Bonjour,

I am looking for details about activities of II./JG 53 on March 4, 1944. Details about its mission(s) and its claim(s) of that day which has seen the first daylight bombing of Berlin by a few heavies of the 8th AF. I thank you beforehand for your assistance.

Best regards,
Frederic

Re: II./JG 53 – March 4, 1944
 

Bonjour Frédéric,

the II./J.G. 53 lost five 109's on that day. Claims two Fortresses and two (one) Mustangs.

Rgds,
René

Re: II./JG 53 – March 4, 1944
 

Hello Rene,

Merci beaucoup for these informations about losses and claims of the Gruppe. But could you provide me more details? The circumstances for example... Thinking back, is there something in the Jochen Prien book about the Pik As history?

Regards,
Frederic

Re: II./JG 53 – March 4, 1944
 

Frédéric,

yes I think you will find more details in the book of Prien. I don't have this book.
According to the claim list of Tony Wood, Ofw. Ehrenberger and Lt. Passhaus claimed everybody a B-17 and Lt. Schmiedel a P-51.

Rgds,
René

Re: II./JG 53 – March 4, 1944
 

Bonjour

according to Prien: battle with 100 B-17 of the 1.B.Division escorted by P-47 between Koblenz and Remagen

losses:

4/JG53 Lt Gunther Kremer + by B.17 Koblenz ( G-6 wn.19542)
4/JG53 Gefr.Karl-Heinz Schmidt + by B.17,P-47 Kreckel/Sinzing (G-6 wn.440193)
4/JG53 Uffz Hans Disharz wounded by B.17 ?Warscheid( G-6 wn.440 126)

4/JG53 Lt Helmuth Hirsch + Heiligenroth (G-6 wn.440 114) not in fight ("uberfuhrung")

5/JG53 Lt Wilhelm Westhoff Chimay (G-6,black 11+-)

claims:
Obfw.Ehrenberger B.17 (49.)
Lt.Paashaus B.17 (15.)
Lt.Schmiedel B.17 (14.)

regards

Re: II./JG 53 – March 4, 1944
 

Re: II./JG 53 – March 4, 1944
 

Hello,

I misread for Schmiedel:it's not his (14.) but his First !
the second the 8/6/44 ( a B.24)

8/6/44 :+ O Malestroit/Vannes Bf 109 G-5 110 037 yellow 13+--

regards

Re: II./JG 53 – March 4, 1944
 

Bonjour focusfocus,

I had fixed the error by myself. ;o)

Regards,
Frederic

Re: II./JG 53 – March 4, 1944
 

focusfocus,
What do you mean with:
8/6/44 :+ O Malestroit/Vannes Bf 109 G-5 110037 yellow 13+--
Frans A

Re: II./JG 53 – March 4, 1944
 

shot down and killed ( by B.24 ??) the 8/6/44
"western of Malestroit near Vannes"