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Boris Ciglic 14th November 2016 20:43

Luftwaffe aces in Crimea
 
I would like to point to excellent articles written by my friend Ivan Lavrinenko about Luftwaffe aces in Crimea. The level of Ivan's research is amazing. Although the articles are in Russian, I hope that with google translate most of you will be able to understand the essence

http://warspot.ru/7553-sheynaya-chesotka-professionalnaya-bolezn-asov-lyuftvaffe

http://warspot.ru/7199-luchshiy-den-gauptmana-barkhorna

http://proza.ru/2016/07/07/1127

http://proza.ru/2016/07/12/591

Cheers,
Boris

Andrew Arthy 26th November 2016 04:33

Re: Luftwaffe aces in Crimea
 
Boris,

Thank you for sharing these very interesting links.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
Air War Publications - www.airwarpublications.com/earticles

Maxim1 28th November 2016 11:20

A brief summary of German claims and corresponding Soviet losses:

Gerhard BARKHORN

216. OK 28.12.1943 8:47 Jak-1 - LaGG-3 of 88 IAP, st. l-t Georgy Naumov, DOW 31.12.1943
217. OVERCLAIM 28.12.1943 8:53 Il-2 m.H.
218. OVERCLAIM 28.12.1943 10:20 Jak-1
219. OK 28.12.1943 10:23 Jak-1 - LaGG-3 of 790 IAP, ml. l-t Nikolay Moskalyov, baled out
220. OK 28.12.1943 12:07 Jak-1 - Yak-1 of 48 GIAP, k-n Nikolay Pechony, belly landed, wounded
221. OK 28.12.1943 12:10 P-39 - P-39 of 66 IAP, ml. l-t Aleksandr Andrievsky, survived
222. OK 28.12.1943 12:21 Jak-1 - Yak-1 of 48 GIAP, st. l-t Akhmet-khan Kankoshev, HSU, killed

248. POSSIBLE 12.2.1944 12:58 Jak-1 - Yak-1 of 48 GIAP, ml. l-t Yury Rubtsov, MIA

Otto FOENNEKOLD

108. OK 05.02.1944 6:26 P-39 - P-39 of 66 IAP, ml. l-t Aleksandr Andrievsky, killed

"Abschussjubiläums":

Helmut LIPFERT

50. PROBABLY NOT 12.11.1943 Il-2
100. POSSIBLE 11.04.1944 Il-2

Gerhard BARKHORN

200. OVERCLAIM 30.11.1943 11:50 Jak-1
250. OVERCLAIM 13.02.1944 14:46 Jak-1

Wilhelm BATZ

50. OK 30.11.1943 Il-2
100. POSSIBLE 22.03.1944 Jak-1

Hans ELLENDT

50. POSSIBLE 06.12.1943 Il-2

Heinz SACHSENBERG

49. OVERCLAIM 07.12.1943 16:50 P-39
50. OVERCLAIM 07.12.1943 16:55 P-39

Otto FOENNEKOLD

100. OK 12.01.1944 P-39

Gerhard HOFFMANN

50. PROBABLY NOT 28.02.1944 LaGG-3
99. OVERCLAIM 22.04.1944 Il-2
100. OVERCLAIM 22.04.1944 Il-2
101. OVERCLAIM 22.04.1944 Il-2

Peter DUETTMANN

49. OVERCLAIM 17.04.1944 LaGG-3
50. OVERCLAIM 17.03.1944 LaGG-3
51. OVERCLAIM 17.04.1944 LaGG-3
52. OVERCLAIM 17.04.1944 Il-2

Walter WOLFRUM

50. PROBABLY OK 26.03.1944 Jak-1

Andreas STERL

50. OVERCLAIM 07.04.1944 Il-2

Heinrich STURM

99. OVERCLAIM 08.04.1944 Jak-1
100. OVERCLAIM 08.04.1944 Jak-1
101. OVERCLAIM 08.04.1944 P-39

Hans WALDMANN

100. POSSIBLE 11.04.1944 Jak-7

Hans-Joachim BIRKNER

50. PROBABLY NOT 23.04.1944 Pe-2

Karl GRATZ

100. OVERCLAIM 06.05.1944 LaGG-3

Peter DUETTMANN

23. OVERCLAIM 29.12.1943 12:23 LaGG-3
24. OVERCLAIM 29.12.1943 12:33 Jak-7
25. OVERCLAIM 29.12.1943 12:50 P-39
26. OVERCLAIM 03.01.1944 8:17 P-39
27. POSSIBLE 03.01.1944 8:25 P-39 - LaGG-3 of 249 IAP, k-n Osman Ziyadinov, MIA
28. OVERCLAIM 15.01.1944 7:21 Il-2 m.H.
29. POSSIBLE 17.01.1944 6:41 Il-2 m.H. - Il-2 of 190 ShAP, belly landed
30. OK 21.01.1944 11:41 P-40 - LaGG-3 of 88 IAP, ml. l-t Dmitry Shulzhenko or ml. l-t Pyotr Cherepnin, both killed
31. POSSIBLE 10.02.1944 9:25 Jak-1 - Yak-1 or LaGG-3 of 6 GIAP or 25 IAP
32. PROBABLY NOT 10.02.1944 12:00 LaGG-3
33. OK 12.02.1944 8:52 Jak-1 - LaGG-3 of 805 or 25 IAP, destroyed or damaged
34. OK 13.02.1944 7:48 P-39 - P-39 №29538 of 66 IAP, l-t Nikolay Sobolev, wounded
35. OVERCLAIM 13.02.1944 15:07 P-39
36. POSSIBLE 14.2.1944 11:27 P-39 - P-39 №29254 of 57 GIAP, ml. l-t Ivan Shcherbak, MIA
37. OK 26.02.1944 12:24 P-40 - P-40 of 83 GIAP, belly landed
38. POSSIBLE 01.03.1944 8:03 P-40 - Yak-7b of 84 GIAP, damaged, ml. l-t Zorin, slightly wounded
39. POSSIBLE 02.03.1944 9:55 Jal-1 - Yak-1 of 42 GIAP, damaged, st. l-t Zaytsev, uninjured
40. POSSIBLE 11.3.1944 16:22 Jak-1 - a fighter of 3 IAK
41. OVERCLAIM 12.3.1944 7:45 P-40
42. OVERCLAIM 12.3.1944 7:52 P-40
43. POSSIBLE 13.3.1944 8:35 Il-2 - Il-2 of 8 GShAP or 47 ShAP
44. OK 14.03.1944 13:00 LaGG-3 - LaGG-3 of 249 IAP, st. l-t Pyotr Shcheblykin, heavily wounded
45. OK 16.03.1944 10:10 Il-2 - Il-2 of 7 GShAP, k-n Vladimir Demidov heavily wounded, gunner starshina Vasily Poplavsky DOW
46. OVERCLAIM 16.03.1944 10:11 Il-2
47. OVERCLAIM 16.03.1944 10:12 Il-2
48. OVERCLAIM 16.03.1944 10:13 P-40
49. OVERCLAIM 17.03.1944 9:15 LaGG-3
50. OVERCLAIM 17.03.1944 9:20 LaGG-3
51. OVERCLAIM 17.03.1944 9:21 LaGG
52. OVERCLAIM 17.03.1944 9:23 Il-2
53. OK 26.3.1944 9:23 Jak-1 - Yak-9 №1023 of 15 IAP, ml. l-t Ivan Dmitriyev, MIA
54. POSSIBLE 26.3.1944 16:07 Jak-1 - Yak-9 №1050 of 274 IAP, mayor Nikolay Volochkov, killed
55. OVERCLAIM 26.3.1944 16:08 Jak-1
56. OVERCLAIM 05.04.1944 13:11 LaGG-5
57. POSSIBLE 05.04.1944 17:26 Il-2 - Il-2 of 210 ShAP, damaged but repairable, st. l-t Kosov and a gunner slightly wounded
58. OVERCLAIM 05.04.1944 17:30 P-40
59. OVERCLAIM 05.04.1944 17:31 P-40
60. PROBABLY NOT (3 claims for 1 loss) 08.04.1944 15:29 Jak-1 - Yak-1 of 73 GIAP, belly landed, ml. l-t A. Kuznetsov, uninjured
61. POSSIBLE 09.04.1944 10:09 Il-2 m.H. - Il-2 of 8 VA
62. OVERCLAIM 09.04.1944 10:09 Il-2 m.H.

Karl GRATZ

110 (?). OK 05.05.1944 10:42 P-39 - P-39 of 9 GIAP, mayor Aleksey Alelyukhin, HSUx2 (survived the war, 34+6 claims), baled out

GMichalski 28th November 2016 21:12

Re: Luftwaffe aces in Crimea
 
Hi,

great info, it helps a lot!

regards

Nick Hector 8th November 2017 11:33

Re: Luftwaffe aces in Crimea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxim1 (Post 226335)
Peter DUETTMANN

23. OVERCLAIM 29.12.1943 12:23 LaGG-3
24. OVERCLAIM 29.12.1943 12:33 Jak-7
25. OVERCLAIM 29.12.1943 12:50 P-39
26. OVERCLAIM 03.01.1944 8:17 P-39
27. POSSIBLE 03.01.1944 8:25 P-39 - LaGG-3 of 249 IAP, k-n Osman Ziyadinov, MIA
28. OVERCLAIM 15.01.1944 7:21 Il-2 m.H.
29. POSSIBLE 17.01.1944 6:41 Il-2 m.H. - Il-2 of 190 ShAP, belly landed
30. OK 21.01.1944 11:41 P-40 - LaGG-3 of 88 IAP, ml. l-t Dmitry Shulzhenko or ml. l-t Pyotr Cherepnin, both killed
31. POSSIBLE 10.02.1944 9:25 Jak-1 - Yak-1 or LaGG-3 of 6 GIAP or 25 IAP
32. PROBABLY NOT 10.02.1944 12:00 LaGG-3
33. OK 12.02.1944 8:52 Jak-1 - LaGG-3 of 805 or 25 IAP, destroyed or damaged
34. OK 13.02.1944 7:48 P-39 - P-39 №29538 of 66 IAP, l-t Nikolay Sobolev, wounded
35. OVERCLAIM 13.02.1944 15:07 P-39
36. POSSIBLE 14.2.1944 11:27 P-39 - P-39 №29254 of 57 GIAP, ml. l-t Ivan Shcherbak, MIA
37. OK 26.02.1944 12:24 P-40 - P-40 of 83 GIAP, belly landed
38. POSSIBLE 01.03.1944 8:03 P-40 - Yak-7b of 84 GIAP, damaged, ml. l-t Zorin, slightly wounded
39. POSSIBLE 02.03.1944 9:55 Jal-1 - Yak-1 of 42 GIAP, damaged, st. l-t Zaytsev, uninjured
40. POSSIBLE 11.3.1944 16:22 Jak-1 - a fighter of 3 IAK
41. OVERCLAIM 12.3.1944 7:45 P-40
42. OVERCLAIM 12.3.1944 7:52 P-40
43. POSSIBLE 13.3.1944 8:35 Il-2 - Il-2 of 8 GShAP or 47 ShAP
44. OK 14.03.1944 13:00 LaGG-3 - LaGG-3 of 249 IAP, st. l-t Pyotr Shcheblykin, heavily wounded
45. OK 16.03.1944 10:10 Il-2 - Il-2 of 7 GShAP, k-n Vladimir Demidov heavily wounded, gunner starshina Vasily Poplavsky DOW
46. OVERCLAIM 16.03.1944 10:11 Il-2
47. OVERCLAIM 16.03.1944 10:12 Il-2
48. OVERCLAIM 16.03.1944 10:13 P-40
49. OVERCLAIM 17.03.1944 9:15 LaGG-3
50. OVERCLAIM 17.03.1944 9:20 LaGG-3
51. OVERCLAIM 17.03.1944 9:21 LaGG
52. OVERCLAIM 17.03.1944 9:23 Il-2
53. OK 26.3.1944 9:23 Jak-1 - Yak-9 №1023 of 15 IAP, ml. l-t Ivan Dmitriyev, MIA
54. POSSIBLE 26.3.1944 16:07 Jak-1 - Yak-9 №1050 of 274 IAP, mayor Nikolay Volochkov, killed
55. OVERCLAIM 26.3.1944 16:08 Jak-1
56. OVERCLAIM 05.04.1944 13:11 LaGG-5
57. POSSIBLE 05.04.1944 17:26 Il-2 - Il-2 of 210 ShAP, damaged but repairable, st. l-t Kosov and a gunner slightly wounded
58. OVERCLAIM 05.04.1944 17:30 P-40
59. OVERCLAIM 05.04.1944 17:31 P-40
60. PROBABLY NOT (3 claims for 1 loss) 08.04.1944 15:29 Jak-1 - Yak-1 of 73 GIAP, belly landed, ml. l-t A. Kuznetsov, uninjured
61. POSSIBLE 09.04.1944 10:09 Il-2 m.H. - Il-2 of 8 VA
62. OVERCLAIM 09.04.1944 10:09 Il-2 m.H.

Duettmann's claims on 17.03.44: Antipov and Utkin seem to indicate that these were Ml.Lts. Yuriy Vasilyevich Davydov in 39132/"39" and Aleksander Vasilyevich Razumovich in "37" of 812 IAP

Evgeny Velichko 8th November 2017 14:32

Re: Luftwaffe aces in Crimea
 
27.10.1944, Oblt. Otto Kittel claimed Il-2 as his 250th victory. It is 100% confirmed by soviet records. Il-2 Zav.Nom.6060, "White 1", of 947 shap, crew - Ml.l-t Gusenkov, gunner - Ivanov, were killed.


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