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focusfocus 16th December 2016 11:53

"Ghost pilots" of II/JG 51
 
Bonjour all

After some victories with the II/JG 51,these pilots seem to have completely "disappeared from the radars",but J could be wrong!.
Have they been killed,wounded,removed from flying personnel,transferred to others unity?

Ofw.Heinrich Lulwes (6.) 5/JG 51
Fw. Alfred Rebel (3.) 6/JG 51
Fw. Walter Kabis (2.)
Uffz. Waldemar Funk (5.)4/JG 51
Ofw. Karl Elsner (5.) 4/JG 51
Lt Helmut Ruscher(2.) 6/JG 51
Oblt.Hans Mihlan (7.) stab
Uffz.Werner Buttke(2.) 6/JG 51

If anyone can helm me?

Thank you in advance

michel

Laurent Rizzotti 16th December 2016 13:30

Re: "Ghost pilots" of II/JG 51
 
Heinz Mihlan (not Heinz) later served with SG 4, serving as Staffelkapitän of 8./SG 4 from February 1944 to 6 June.

This day as a Hptm, he was involved in a fight against Allied fighters and claimed a P-51 but was then hit and forced to bail out. He was apparently unhurt.

Jim P. 16th December 2016 21:59

Re: "Ghost pilots" of II/JG 51
 
Lt Helmut Ruscher - I believe the last name is Ruschen. He also flew with JG 54 for a time and survived the war.

Jim P. 17th December 2016 00:11

Re: "Ghost pilots" of II/JG 51
 
Bf 109F-2, 12932, Rebel, Fw. Alfred, , II., 6., JG 51, , , , , 13-Dec-41, MIA due to Luftkampf., , Lfl.1/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #4)-Vol.7; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IX.1, p.97; Ring, JG 51 loss list, p.47, , südwestlich Kaschira, 100%, F, , ,

There is a Karlheinz Elsner MIA in Jul-44 with JG 2. Same guy maybe?

Bf 109E-1, 6137, Ruschen, Ltn. Helmut, , I., 2., JG 54, schwarze, 7 +, , , 25-Aug-40, Notlandung due to Luftkampf., , Lfl.2/Kanal, FB H. Ruschen; Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.2; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.2, p.302; Mason, p.302; BoB, T&N, p.597; Rosipal JG 54 loss list, , bei Wissant, 15%, F, , ,
Bf 109F-2, 12803, Ruschen, Ltn. Helmut, 10, II., 6., JG 51, gelbe, 12- +, KH+NY, , 30-Jun-41, WIA due to Luftkampf with SB-2. Bruchlandung., Ground fire at Bobruisk per first loss. Also reported next entry for 1-Jul., Lfl.2/Eins.Osten, FB H. Ruschen; Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, VI.1, p.288; Ring, JG 51 loss list, p.46, , Nowo-Hutkowo, 30%, F, , 18.50~,

Bf 109F-2, 9195, Buttke, Fw. Werner, , II., 6., JG 51, , , NJ+XY, , 28-Jul-41, Injured due to Bruchlandung. Overturned., , Lfl.2/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, VI.1, p.288; Ring, JG 51 loss list, p.46, LEMB, Schatalowka, 60%, F, , ,

FW 190A-6, 470601, Mihlan, Hptm. Heinz, , III., 8., SG 4, schwarze, M + |, , , 06-Jun-44, Stkp. FSA due to Luftkampf with P-51s. Passenger KIA., , FR, Frappé, La LW face au débarquement allié, p.262, 313, , Saint-Jean-d'Assé, 100%, F, , ,

Johannes 18th December 2016 10:58

Re: "Ghost pilots" of II/JG 51
 
Hi Guys

Oberleutnant Helmut Ruschen ended the war, which he survived with 6./JG 52.

Kind Regards

Johannes

focusfocus 21st December 2016 12:52

Re: "Ghost pilots" of II/JG 51
 
Thanks Guys

Their spell still seems mysterious except for Ruschen
I have a small doubt that Hans Mihlan is Heinz Mihlan,in JG 51 it's well Hans

michel

Andrew Arthy 26th December 2016 02:48

Re: "Ghost pilots" of II/JG 51
 
Hi,

Heinz Mihlan returned to III./S.G. 4 after the 6 June 1944 incident, and later became a Major, surviving the war. He died in the 1960s.

Cheers,
Andrew A.
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