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OakTree 15th January 2017 19:25

Luftwaffe units in 1945
 
What units still active that fought against Russian in April-May? What planes saw action?

Nick Beale 16th January 2017 11:58

Re: Luftwaffe units in 1945
 
Your question is really to broad to answer properly. About the only Luftwaffe units not operating against the Soviets in the final stages of the war were those based in Norway and Italy. Almost everything else they had either was or could be switched between operations on both fronts as the Reich's territory became ever smaller.

It's probably safe to say that almost every type of combat aircraft still in Luftwaffe service saw some action on the eastern front, from biplanes to jets.

Johannes 16th January 2017 12:27

Re: Luftwaffe units in 1945
 
Hi

From a fighter aircraft point of view, those heavily involved at that time were(by memory):

JG 11, JG 4, JG 51, JG 52, JG 54, JG 77, EJG 1, JG 6, JG 3.

Also heavily involved were the Schlacht units, usually out-scoring the fighter units:-

SG 1, SG 2, SG 5, SG 10.

Highest scoring pilot was Günther Josten of JG 51.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Delmenhorst 16th January 2017 20:23

Re: Luftwaffe units in 1945
 
Einsatzmässige Gliederung der flg. Verbände des Lfl. Kdo. 6
Stand 8.3.1945, 20.00 Uhr
A. Luftflottenkommando 6, H.Qu. Treuenbrietzen
2. Staffel Treuenbrietzen
B. Gen.Kdo. VIII. Flg.Korps (Zus.Arb. mit H.Gr.Mitte) Senftenberg
1) Verbindungsstaffel VIII. Flg.Korps Buchwalde
2) NAG 15 Bautzen-Litten
1./NAG 15 Bautzen-Litten
2./NAG 15 Bautzen-Litten
12./13 Bautzen-Litten
Fi 156 Kdo. IV Bautzen-Litten
3) Fi 156 Kdo. V Hirschberg
4) FAG 3 Alt Lönnewitz
2.(F)/100 Alt Lönnewitz
4.(F)/121 Alt Lönnewitz
4.(F)/Nacht Alt Lönnewitz
5) JG 6 Welzow
I./JG 6 Welzow
II./JG 6 Welzow
III./JG 6 Welzow
6) Eins.Gr. IV.(Erg)/JG 1 Görlitz
mit Teilen Bautzen-Litten
und Königgrätz
7) SG 4 Dresden-Klotsche
II./SG 4 Dresden-Klotsche
III./SG 4 Dresden-Klotsche
8) SG 77 Cottbus
I./SG 77 Altenow
II./SG 77 Gahro
III./SG 77 Cottbus
10.(Pz.)/SG 77 Cottbus
9) SG 2 Grossenhain
II./SG 2 Grossenhain
III./SG 2 Kamenz
10.(Pz.)/SG 2 Kamenz
10) 3./NSG 4 Kamenz
11) 3. Flg.Div (Zus.Arb. m. Armeegruppe Heinrici Olmütz
und AOK 17
Vorgeschob. Gefechtsstand Kamenz
a. NAG 2 Neisse-Stephansdorf
1./NAG 2 Olmütz/West
2./NAG 2 Neisse-Stephansdorf
1./31 Neisse-Stephansdorf
b. JG 52 Weidengut
I./JG 52 Weidengut
III./JG 52 Weidengut
c. JG 77 Beneschau
I./JG 77 Beneschau
II./JG 77 Prossnitz
III./JG 77 Beneschau
d. I./SG 4 Kosteletz
e. 10.(Pz)/SG 9 Weidengut
f. NSG 4 Neisse-Möckendorf
2./NSG 4 Neisse-Möckendorf
C) Gen.Kdo. II. Flg.Korps (Zus.Arb. mit H.Gr. Biesenthal
Weichel - ohne AOK 2)
12) IV./NJG 2 Neuruppin
13) II./NJG 3 Neubrandenburg
14) III./KG 53 (ohne 7. Staffel) Greifswald
15) 4. Flg.Div (Zus.Arb. mit AOK 9) Bad Saarow
a. NAG 8 Fürstenwalde
2./NAG 8 Fürstenwalde
2./NAG 3 Fürstenwalde
11./11 Friedersdorf
Fi 156 Kdo. I Eggersdorf
b. JG 4 Markzwuschen
I./JG 4 Glücksburg
II./JG 4 Schönefeld
III./JG 4 Jüterbog-Damm
IV./JG 4 Markzwuschen
c. JG 11 Straussberg
I./JG 11 Straussberg
II./JG 11 Straussberg
III./JG 11 Straussberg
III./JG 54 Eggersdorf
d. Eins. Teile II.(Erg)/JG 1 Gatow
e) SG 1 Fürstenwalde
I./SG 1, Vorübergehend verstärkt durch 15./SG 151
und 5./SG 151 Fürstenwalde
II./SG 1 Werneuchen
f) 14./SG 151 Staaken
g) NSG 8 Werneuchen
1./NSG 4 Anklam
16) 1. Flg.Div (Zus.Arb. mit Pz.AOK 3 und Oderkorps) Neubrandenburg
a. Verb.Staffel 1. Flg.Div Neubrandenburg
b. NAG 3 Neubrandenburg
1./NAG 3 Neubrandenburg
4./31 (ohne 1 Schwarm) Neubrandenburg
c. 1./NAG 8 Finow
d. Fi 156 Kdo. II Pasewalk
e. JG 3 Völschendorf
I./JG 3 Neubrandenburg
II./JG 3 Garz
III./JG 3 Pasewalk
IV./JG 3 Prenzlau
f. JG 1 Garz
II./JG 1 Garz
III./JG 1 Anklam
g. SG 3 Finow
II./SG 3 vorübegehend verstärkt durch 13./SG 151
und 1.(Pz.)/SG 9 Finow
III./SG 3 Oranienburg
h. 2.(Pz.)/SG 9 mit Eins.Teilen 3.(Pz.)/SG 9 Prenzlau
D) Lw.Kdo Osptreussen (zus.Arb. mit H.Gr. Nord) Neutief
17) Verb. Staffel Lw.Kdo Ostpreussen Neutief
18) 2./NAG 4 (mit unterstellem Schwarm 4./31) Neutief
19) III./JG 51 Neutief
20) Stabsstaffel/JG 51 Brüsterort
21) I./SG 3 Brüsterort
E) Lfl.Kdo. 6 unmittelbar einsatzmässig unterstellt:
22) Verbindingsstaffel Lfl.Kdo 6 Jüterbog-Waldlager
23) Sanitätsflugbereitschaft 2 Jüterbog-Damm
24) FAG 2 Finow
1.(F)/122 Neubrandenburg
4.(F)/11 Welzow
4.(F)/14 Tutow/Süd
5.(F)/122 Finow
2.(F)/Nacht Neuruppin
25) Gefechtsverband Weiss (zus.Arb. m. AOK 2) Danzig-Langfuhr
a. NAG 4 Hexengrund
1./NAG 4 Hexengrund
11./12 Hexengrund
b. Fi 156 Kdo III Lauenburg
c. JG 51 Danzig-Langfuhr
I./JG 51 Danzig-Langfuhr
IV./JG 51 Rahmel
26) Gefechtsverband Helbig (für Brückenbekämpfung) Treuenbrietzen
a. Stab/LG 1 Brandis
II./LG 1 Brandis
b. Teile KG 200 Burg
und fallweise einsatzmässig unterstellte Verbände Lfl.Kdo. 6 entsprechend täglicher Einsatzabsichten.
27) Fliegerführer 6 Ahlbeck
a. 3.(F)/22 Greifswald
b. SAG 126 Bug a. Rügen
1./SAG 126 Bug a. Rügen
2./SAG 126 Parow
3./SAG 126 Bug a. Rügen
c. Eins. Teile Ausb. Flg. Führer Ostsee Bug a. Rügen
d. Bordfliegergruppe 196 Bug a. Rügen
1./Bordflg.Gr. 196 Bug a. Rügen
2./Bordflg.Gr. 196 Bug a. Rügen
e. 6./MSGr 1 Langfuhr
Telei 6./MSGr 1 Peenemünde
f. Eins. Teile Erg.Aufkl. Stafel See Kopenhagen
28) Transportfliegerführer
a. 1./TG 1 Hexengrund
b. 2./TG 1 Tutow
c) I./TG 3 Buchwalde
1 Staffel Leutewitz
d) II./TG 2 Bronkow
e) III./TG 2 Dresden-Klotsche
f) 14.(Eis.)/KG 55 Alt Lönnewitz
(mit unterstellter Schleppstaffel Fs AOK u. Teile
Schleppgr. 1) u. Vorübergehend untersteller
7./KG 53 Alt Lönnewitz

Paul Thompson 16th January 2017 21:49

Re: Luftwaffe units in 1945
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Delmenhorst (Post 228318)
Einsatzmässige Gliederung der flg. Verbände des Lfl. Kdo. 6
Stand 8.3.1945, 20.00 Uhr
A. Luftflottenkommando 6, H.Qu. Treuenbrietzen

Hello Delmenhorst, what a coincidence, a Russian researcher has just posted the order of battle of Luftflotte 6 for the same date (8 March 1945) on his blog! The link to the blog post is http://igor-ktb.livejournal.com/29567.html . The link to the order of battle itself is https://yadi.sk/i/drs3xWuJ32D5Xv .

May I ask whether this information comes from NARA Microfilm T321, Roll 50? If many people are drinking from the same source, that would explain why similar information is appearing in different places simultaneously.

Regards,

Paul

Delmenhorst 16th January 2017 23:03

Re: Luftwaffe units in 1945
 
Yes it does

OakTree 17th January 2017 00:03

Re: Luftwaffe units in 1945
 
What you guys posted I am getting the same. I know luftflotte 6 station eastern Germany....and just got want I needed but a hell of lot of data that I will have to break down. I see luftflotte 10 (Berlin) but can not get anything on that.

I realized I left out one key question, what units cover eastern Germany?

Delmenhorst 17th January 2017 10:39

Re: Luftwaffe units in 1945
 
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Here you go ..

Paul Thompson 17th January 2017 10:46

Re: Luftwaffe units in 1945
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OakTree (Post 228329)
What you guys posted I am getting the same. I know luftflotte 6 station eastern Germany....and just got want I needed but a hell of lot of data that I will have to break down. I see luftflotte 10 (Berlin) but can not get anything on that.

OakTree, it would help if you wrote in clearer English. It is completely impossible to understand what you mean by "What you guys posted I am getting the same" and "but can not get anything on that". Please express your thoughts with greater clarity.

To get to the crux of your question, as I understand it:
Luftflotte 6 covered the central sector of the Eastern Front in 1945, see http://www.ww2.dk/air/hq/lfl6.htm and http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...uftflotte6.htm

Luftflotte 4 covered the southern sector of the Eastern Front - http://www.ww2.dk/air/hq/lfl4.htm and http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...uftflotte4.htm

Luftflotte 10 was a command formed late in the war to control training formations, rather than frontline units - http://www.ww2.dk/air/hq/lfl10.htm and http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...ftflotte10.htm

Take note, selected formations in Luftflotte 10, such as 9. Flieger-Division (J), were intended to be sent into combat in the final stages of the war. I believe this never occurred, but experts on the Luftwaffe in 1945 will be able to say much more.

Regards,

Paul

Paul Thompson 17th January 2017 10:55

Re: Luftwaffe units in 1945
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Delmenhorst (Post 228340)
Here you go ..

Delmenhorst, thank you very much indeed for sharing that extraordinarily detailed information:) Did you type all of that up yourself?

May I ask what Verfügbar means in the crew strength figures in this document, is it personnel present at the unit at the specific time that the strength report was compiled?

Regards,

Paul


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