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focusfocus 25th March 2017 11:54

Claims of 150° Italian Gruppo in Albania 1940
 
Hello

28/12/1940:

Four claimed Gladiators by 150° Gruppo Autonomo over "Delvinakion"

07/12/1940:

Three Blenheims (including one prob.) claimed shot down (L8455,L8457,L1381)
Someone has it details about these events(claims by Italian pilots involved).
Nothing in the Osprey n°38 and in the now old "Air war for Yugoslavia..... of Shores,Cull,Malizia).

Thanks in adavance

michel

Brian 25th March 2017 13:19

Re: Claims of 150° Italian Gruppo in Albania 1940
 
Hi Michel

Perhaps something in 'Blenheims over Greece & Crete'?

Cheers
Brian

Daniele Gatti 25th March 2017 17:59

Re: Claims of 150° Italian Gruppo in Albania 1940
 
On Brian's book there is all about 07/12/1940 :-)

focusfocus 25th March 2017 18:29

Re: Claims of 150° Italian Gruppo in Albania 1940
 
Oops,sorry I meant 28/11/40 (finger too big and small keyboard!)

michel

Daniele Gatti 25th March 2017 18:49

Re: Claims of 150° Italian Gruppo in Albania 1940
 
About 28/11/1940:

4 Gladiator plus 1 probable was claimed shared by:

364ª Squadriglia:

Ten. Spigaglia
Ten. Rovetta
M.llo Bacci (wounded)
Serg. Pacini (shot down and wounded, but returned on the base)
Serg. Mignani (shot down and KIA)

365ª Squadriglia:

Cap. Graffer (shot down and KIA)
Ten. Marchetti
S.ten. Clerici
S.ten. Fatigati
Serg. Zotti (wounded)

Regards, Daniele.

focusfocus 25th March 2017 19:02

Re: Claims of 150° Italian Gruppo in Albania 1940
 
Exellent

Thanks Daniele

I don't have the book of Brian,your precedent post for the 7/12/40 has disappeared.normal?

michel

Daniele Gatti 25th March 2017 19:13

Re: Claims of 150° Italian Gruppo in Albania 1940
 
Yes, It's normal...

It's right that Brian write about that dogfight. :-)

Stig Jarlevik 26th March 2017 00:38

Re: Claims of 150° Italian Gruppo in Albania 1940
 
Michel

I thought it was strange none of these battles were in the Shores/Cull/Malizia book, so if you look at page 44 (dealing with the date 28.11.1940) and page 50 (dealing with the date 7.12.1940) they are both there, at least in my copy!

Daniele

Since you answered this, is anything known about the individual claims by the Italian pilots, and are the MM numbers known for the losses?

Cheers
Stig

focusfocus 26th March 2017 09:45

Re: Claims of 150° Italian Gruppo in Albania 1940
 
Stig

Yes,of course,these battles are in Shores,Cull,Malizia book,but the informations on the italian side is rather fragmentary and for example on 07/12/40,we don't know the italian pilots involved who makes claims.

My remark also applies to the 03/12/40 (two claims),18/12/40(three prob.),26/12/40(one prob. by Luigi Corsini and five others,but who?).....


In general on the British side,it's well documented,somewhat less Greek side and still less italian side.

best regards

michel

Daniele Gatti 26th March 2017 10:07

Re: Claims of 150° Italian Gruppo in Albania 1940
 
Stig:

Hi, my friend!
About this dogfight the claims (4 + 1) are shared by all ten italian pilots.
No, the MM of Fiat CR.42 losses are unknown.

Michel:

Do you also need to know the claims for the other dates?


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