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focusfocus 30th May 2017 14:58

29/05/40:II/JG3 vs Wellingtons?
 
According to Prien,two different versions for a single fact:what is the correct?

1) three Wellingtons for II/JG3 (time:16h25)
2)one Wellington for II/JG3 (time:16h25)
two Wellingtons for II/JG3(time:20h00).

My Questions:
1)What Wellingtons?
2)Would it not rather be "Ansons"?

Someone have an idea.
Michel

Chris Goss 30th May 2017 18:11

Re: 29/05/40:II/JG3 vs Wellingtons?
 
Michel

Maybe getting hold of a copy of BofF T&N might help. The book says that:
21 Sqn Blenheim was a victim of 2./JG 3 1900 hrs UK time
48 Sqn Anson was a victim of II./JG 26 1805 hrs UK time

There were no Wellingtons (at all that day due to combat) or any other Ansons at the times you quote so as there was quite a bit going on, the heat of battle clouded ambition. There were 3 claims by I./JG 3 for 3 x Wellingtons and the only claims by II./JG 3 was for 3 Spitfires

focusfocus 31st May 2017 09:51

Re: 29/05/40:II/JG3 vs Wellingtons?
 
Chris

And the two Ansons (500°Sq) victims of who? time?....I/JG3(claimed as Wellingtons?) or II/JG26

Michel

Chris Goss 31st May 2017 11:39

Re: 29/05/40:II/JG3 vs Wellingtons?
 
N5227 lost 1100 hrs no details. N5065 lost to 5./JG 26 1805 hrs. II./JG 26 claimed 3 Spitfires & 2 Ansons 1845-1905 hrs German time

andy bird 31st May 2017 14:39

Re: 29/05/40:II/JG3 vs Wellingtons?
 
Michel,

NA UK: AIR 81/678

Sergeant H W Johnson, Leading Aircraftman F H Giles, Sergeant R G T Soper and Pilot Officer I S Wheelwright: missing presumed dead; Anson N5227 failed to return from patrol over Dunkirk, France, 30 May 1940

VtwinVince 31st May 2017 18:32

Re: 29/05/40:II/JG3 vs Wellingtons?
 
My uncle was given credit for one of these claims, a Spitfire near Dunkirk at 1645 hours whilst supernumerary CO of 4. JG 3, Hauptmann Dr. Albrecht Ochs.

focusfocus 31st May 2017 20:24

Re: 29/05/40:II/JG3 vs Wellingtons?
 
The precision on the time (16h45) of the victory of your uncle is interesting because it contradicts the hour (18h30) given par Jochen Prien.

The time of the loss of the N5227 (11h00) adds a little more interrogation:victim of who?

Michel


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