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steve sheridan 15th August 2017 18:31

4/KG27 He111P written off 17.8.40.
 
Hi could anybody kindly help with the following loss.

17.8.40 He111P forced landed due to engine trouble whilst on night mission at Laval from 4/KG27. Apparently 3 NCO's were injured. I have no names and conflicting a/c identities being 1G+LM and 1G+JM.
Would anybody be able to confirm from the NVM?.

Best regs,
Steve.

Chris Goss 15th August 2017 19:08

Re: 4/KG27 He111P written off 17.8.40.
 
I have +LM no crew casualties

Rottler 15th August 2017 21:05

Re: 4/KG27 He111P written off 17.8.40.
 
Hello Steve,

Verlustmeldung Gen.Qu. from August 20, 1940 No. 50:
18.8. II./KG 27 Feindflug Laval Notlandung infolge Motorstörung He 111 P
90% 3 Verletzte.

Unfortunately no names of the injured crew.

Regards
Leo

steve sheridan 16th August 2017 00:47

Re: 4/KG27 He111P written off 17.8.40.
 
Thanks very much Chris and Leo.
I have the same information as Leo with three injured, wondered whether the NVM was a little bit more explicit and lists the three guys involved?
Best regs,
Steve.

Peter Cornwell 16th August 2017 09:55

Re: 4/KG27 He111P written off 17.8.40.
 
18 August 1940 4./KG27 Heinkel He111P-2. Crash-landed 11 km west of Laval due to engine failure and electrical fault during night training flight a.m. FF Fw Lorenz Gäll, HB Oberfw Rudolf Hasselbacher, and BF Uffz Martin Jähmigen all slightly injured, rest of crew unhurt. Aircraft 1G+LM 90% damaged - write-off.

steve sheridan 16th August 2017 12:58

Re: 4/KG27 He111P written off 17.8.40.
 
Good morning Peter, wonderful stuff.
Thanks for confirming the identities and confirming this flight was not operational, this does help.
Kindest regs,
Steve.

steve sheridan 28th September 2017 20:31

Re: 4/KG27 He111P written off 17.8.40.
 
Hi Peter, I've recently obtained the flugbuch of the pilot involved in the accident mentioned in this thread.

He is named as Fw. Lorenz Goll with an umlaut above the O.
According to his fb. he was flying 1G+JM and records the flight time T.off 23.00
on 18.8.40 to 02.55hrs on 19.8.40.
This would be Goll's last flight with KG27.
Best regs,
Steve.

PS. Where did you source your information Peter if you don't mind me asking.

Peter Cornwell 29th September 2017 13:13

Re: 4/KG27 He111P written off 17.8.40.
 
Steve,

Many thanks for the corrections - most helpful. My sources were a very poor copy of the NVM, plus the Lw QMG Returns. I now have no recollection of where that incorrect individual code letter originated - sorry. I believe the flight was an armed-reconnaissance over south-west England.

steve sheridan 1st October 2017 14:52

Re: 4/KG27 He111P written off 17.8.40.
 
Hi Peter glad to be able to help.
Its gratifying to me that I can help you! for once.
Kindest regs,
Steve.


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